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  1. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’re posting that like I’ve disagreed with you, I haven’t. Do you think that a political party in power voting that animals don’t feel pain or are capable of emotions is going to be good or bad for animal welfare? By any stretch of the imagination it’s not an indication that more compassion...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because we’ve recognised animals as sentient beings for a long time in law, until recently.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Most civil servants are appointed not elected. That’s a fact. The only one trying to twist truths is you.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have never met someone who is so opinionated yet be so clueless. It’s seems everything just passes you by regardless of how high profile news it was at the time. Jailed fraud MEP told to pay back money Disgraced ex-Ukip MEP Tom Wise jailed for two years for expenses fraud Former MEP is...
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    Karl Pilkington

    The day? Don’t you mean five minutes :)
  6. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well the Tories have just recently voted that animals aren’t sentient beings so it hardly bodes well for animal farming standards.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You do realise that Britain’s top civil servant has been in the unelected job for decades under various PM’s and two parties. Although if Boris or Gove got the PM’s job instead of May it was widely suggested that he would have been sacked because he’s a remainer and they would bring their own...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’ve just told you. I can post some links if you like but that would be more a case of showing you what you don’t know rather than showing you what I know. Alternatively before you start talking nonsense why don’t you go and look for yourself and do some fact checking beforehand. Here’s some...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s not just JLR. We have plenty of expertise in the U.K. on that we’ll agree. Capacity isn’t the only issue. If there’s components needed in this country for manufacturing that aren’t manufactured in this country that’s a whole different ball park. Sure we could open up factories to make...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Still not sure what you’re saying. British and European MEP’s have been sent to jail for things like expense fraud and have had to pay it back as have British MP’s (although most of them were deselected, resigned, retired and got of so long as they paid some back). European MEP’s have also been...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How does that work for a company like JLR for example who get almost half their components to build a car from outside of the U.K.? If they have components coming in from the EU it will have a tariff on it, if they then sell that car in the EU the car (including the components that already have...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Really not sure how to take that. It sounds like you’re saying that only U.K. MEP’s have been sent to jail for dodgy behaviour.
  13. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’ve really lost the argument at this point.
  14. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ...and the ones who have been found guilty of breaking the law at the expense of the British taxpayer and sent to prison all support leave. Just confirms what I’ve been saying all along doesn’t it? They’re all as bad as each other regardless of what EU country that they’re from and what their...
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    Cultural differences

    Politeness is another one. If you go to the Far East you’ll meet the politest people in the world. Go to France on the other hand...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m surprised you knew that. Or were you just playing dumb the other day when when you asked me to “educate” you on why our political institutions and politicians are just as bad any from within the EU? Still it’s not like one of them produced a dressed up dossier that took us to what can only...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Health groups dismayed by news 'big tobacco' funded rightwing thinktanks Basically it’s from the same think tank that thinks like this ;)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There is no workable solution to the Irish border. The DUP are single handedly seeing to that. The Tories may be the head of the country but on this issue the DUP are the neck and the neck turns the head. That’s why chequers isn’t workable.
  19. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Can’t say I’ve ever heard you blaming people having kids before. I have heard you blaming immigrants though. In fact you’ve just done it again. I’ve made the point to you before and you’re probably going to ignore it again but it’s good practice to have infrastructure that matches your economy...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Plenty of MEP’s have gone to jail for expense fraud. Just to prove that they’re equal to any and all political constitutions. Which is the point that you’re spectacularly missing.
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