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I think we should leave all this in off-topic, as much as we may want to respond. Perhaps a stock answer from here on in of "This is not the place to discuss this" so the thread stays on track?

The thread was just getting back on track. I've tried to refrain from commenting as it's not the right place.

Personally I wouldn't. I think he could be a very good player in the future but he's got a lot of learning to do and is nowhere near PL ready. Given what Palace paid for him he's not going to be a cheap signing and this summer we're going to need all the transfer money for players that will be...

Who said they were far right? There's a big gap between far right and 'not left'

The Land of the Free...

I think we need to see how the leagues going first. Frankly, I'd be happy to solely concentrate all our energy on staying up and playing the reserves in the cup games.

SheEO.

Do it after the game it might finish just about the same time as the car park starts moving. That or a proper German techno/trance rave.

One of those massive flags that works it's way up the stand with "We're back!" on it

Is that the Paul Telfer exhibit?

That's what I'd be looking at too. However, one thing I think our defence is lacking is pace, so at least one of them will need to have that. Experienced player is likely to be older, so you're looking at having the younger player as the pacy one, and I don't think Hughes is that - I see him...

Still get the image of it being some dodgy Brazilian butt lift clinic.

I think Starmer is currently playing a 404.

Username doesn't check out...

That's saddle's job!

Can I just ask about the Grimes song. Yesterday it made sense because of the history with Swansea. Using it in future would be just another lazy copycat without any actual meaning or thought.

Grimes' reaction for me showed why he is a leader and a captain. Rather than react to the abuse he got he was the bigger man and showed restraint, as much as you could see his initial reaction was to celebrate. I've got a lot of respect for that, and if you think the better reaction would have...

Maybe he was biased cos he kept on getting mistaken for the good Alan Green and people were disappointed.

It is consistent. If it's a big team, they're likely to give it. If it's a smaller team, they're likely to not give it. So no inconsistency there.