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Fair point. Seemed to me to be the wrong move to take McDonald and Baker off.

They nullified us by putting us on the back foot and they started overrunning us through the middle of the park at pace. We should have countered that.

Will's your 46 year old son then I take it?

That's what he is saying, that Baker shouldn't have been taken off.

It was the tactics though just as much as the personnel. It was the system that suddenly stopped working because of the way Bury nullified us. It wasn't just about changing players it was about changing systems.

1st half Murphy - 10 Brown - 10 Hussey - 10 Wood - 10 Malaga - 10 Jennings 10 Kilbane - 10 Barton - 10 Baker - 10 Mcdonald - 10 Elliot - 10 2nd half Murphy - 0 Brown - 0 Hussey - 0 Wood - 0 Malaga - 0 Jennings - 0 Kilbane - 0 Barton - 0 Baker - 0...

That's what really grates with me. Yep, AT may well have told the players exactly what was going to happen in the 2nd half and to be ready for it, but what he then failed to do was to make the tactical changes to counteract Bury's changes. Bury made 3 quite quick substitutions in the 2nd half...

Thought the Boro could have up 2-0 up after about 15 mins and we were all over the shop. after that we played well though. Shocking isn't it. :facepalm:

over a 90 minute period? Sick to death now of these 20 min and 45 min efforts of good play followed by 45 mins or more of complete dross. Seems to me that it has been going on for years. Just can't remember the last time we played well all game. :thinking about:

He did one fantastic cross in the 2nd half and that was about the sum of his positive contribution. Just Hope Clarke is fit again soon.

We have now lost 6 points from winning positions already this season. Anyone else getting a sense of deja vu?

My apologies. Thought it was aimed at me. You do seem t o think I hate the manager though and I simply don't. 80% players fault today 20% management. We were out thought by their manager and we had no answer, so the finger partially has to point at the management team for me.

I said it was the players fault. Fook me you're hard work. :facepalm:

FFS I don't hate the manager and have never ever called for his head. :facepalm::facepalm: I had a headline in my head at half-time for a post I was going to make as soon as I got home from the game. "Well done City, great effort and well done Thorn." :facepalm:

Good. Glad you agree. Everything you have ever come to a conclusion on about me has been wrong.

Don't give two shits to be honest and have never complained about anyone ever. Wrong as usual Torch.