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  1. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Depends who you ask.
  2. skybluetony176

    Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75

    As I’ve pointed out to you so I’m not sure why you’re telling me oh dear when you’re the one trying to make out that raising the pension age to 75 will be OK because the Scandinavian countries are the happiest countries in the world. There’s more behind that happiness than retirement age.
  3. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not just no. But it’s the majority. Any issues regarding the backstop can be resolved during the transitional period in theory. If you have the conviction of what you’ve sold that is.
  4. skybluetony176

    Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75

    Prison sentences are shorter in Scandinavia as the emphasis is on rehabilitation not punishment, they then exit prison into a better welfare system than we do so transition back into functioning members of society is much higher and reoffending rates are much lower. Still not sure what prison...
  5. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You see this is the big scam about the backstop. If we negotiate the so called easiest trade deal in the history of man during the transitional period then the backstop is completely irrelevant. The abrasion to the backstop from hardline brexiteers is actually an acknowledgement that when they...
  6. skybluetony176

    Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75

    Scandinavian countries tend to have flexible pension ages not highest. State pension kicks in in Sweden at 65, Denmark 67 and Norway 67. Also the reason that they’re happy is not related to retirement age it’s related to a good work life balance and decent national health care. Easier to work...
  7. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one campaigned for a hard brexit so no one voted for one so why should a hard brexit have been in the talks? There’s no mandate for a hard brexit. What makes you so sure that Boris’ talk isn’t all smoke and mirrors? It certainly has been up to this point. Previously an advocate for EU...
  8. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So did May with her famous red lines. Announced to the cheers of brexiteers all around the country.
  9. skybluetony176

    Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75

    We’re really lucky. Master Rees-Mogg has been promising us all shoes on our feet. Shoes on our feet! In 2019? Imagine. We’ve never had it so good. What a fantastic time to be a pleb.
  10. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s what the “sheep” were trying to tell you all along. All of a sudden FP says the same thing and you reply “exactly” after arguing the opposite.
  11. skybluetony176

    Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75

    If we all use the magical power of positive thinking we’ll have the pension aged reduced to 55 in no time, if we’re extra positive we’ll all be on final salary pensions too. If you’re negative it won’t happen and you’ll only have yourselves to blame. Fact.
  12. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How could they not get enough votes? It’s an elimination contest. Enough votes is second place getting 1 more vote than third place in the final round of votes amongst elected Tory MP’s and then the final 2 go to the party members. The actual reality as the last leadership contest shows is that...
  13. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I know the answer. I’m just curious if you’ll admit it. Which as yet you haven’t.
  14. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    May drew the Red Lines and the brexit camp cheered her like a hero . Now she’s just another name on the list of people, organisations, countries etc to blame. I’m waiting for the day when the majority of leavers accept responsibility for their campaign and vote and stop blaming everything from...
  15. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I note you’re dodging the question. Any chance you’ll answer it?
  16. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You seemed to have failed to observe that in the last Tory leadership contest it’s Tory party members who elect their leader not “Willie Whitehall” and the victor by some margin was the face of the brexit campaign. If they’d have stayed the course there’s no way based on actual events not...
  17. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So why did he accept the appointment? Raab too for that matter? Are you suggesting that May hoodwinked brexit backing MP’s, cabinet members and party members into not realising that she’s a “dribbling europhile”?
  18. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But they had the “will of the people” on their side. Your reply makes no sense in either reality or in the context of your original comment. What’s the fate of many Tory candidates? A dose of reality?
  19. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    David Davis was in charge of negotiations in the very beginning. Presumably another dribbling europhile?
  20. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    OK, let’s pretend you’re right for a second. If that’s the case then why did ALL the brexit candidates step aside allowing her to become PM basically unchallenged?
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