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But isn't whacking your shorts on bound sure to stop all the smiling?

Everybody swears? Everybody? We do not all swear you fookin shitty, twatty bastard wanker!

What, like 'Well done David Bell?' ;)

I recall an incident a couple of years back where swearing wasn't involved but that showed both braindead-ness aggression and lack of consideration and compassion. It was a game where Leon Best went down with what looked like a bad injury and this bloke a couple of rows back screamed out 'Good...

Don't think I have ever sworn at a football match. Only ever swear in the company of very close friends and never in public places.

Fair point. Maybe it's just gallows humour then? Someone standing in front of a firing squad dreaming what he is going to have for dinner tomorrow!

Certainly do. We have had a number of people warn us that it's going to be very tough. We've had ex City players including David Smith who is with Grimsby tell us how tough a league it is. We've had clubs like Forest and Weds and Leeds go down and take quite a while to come back up. Yet, for...

Euromillions been won by someone in the UK.

I would feel a lot more confident with a better manager but I am hoping AT is using last season as a learning curve and that he will make a better fist of it this season.

Here's hoping. Not counting my chickens. When we got Freddie he was supposed to be a really good player and David Bell too and Clingan and McSheff was supposed to shine for us again and McIndoe looked like he was a great buy .... and ..... Too many false dawns.

But we have lost some of our best players and replaced them with unknowns who possibly aren't so good. If we still had Cranie and Keogh in League One I would fancy our chances a lot more.

Yep and if they get it wrong like they do maybe we will finish 14th just like I have predicted! :whistle: And yes it does vary, which is why I went on Oddscheker.

Did I say they were right every time? Is more often than not 'every time?' i think not.

That was a team of Gary Breen's.

Too true. Too true.

Are they right more often than wrong or not?

We have to attain a winning mentality. We simply have to. No more feeling sorry for ourselves and more steel and grit and having the ability to grind our results.

Thanks, Stu. Is a certain person's football knowledge somehow inept themselves perchance? :whistle::whistle::o The bookies have us at 10/3 for promotion, MK Dons at 9/4, Bournemouth and Notts County at 9/2. Is their football knowledge inept I wonder? Bookies are more often than not correct...

i said we could find ourselves being underdogs in these games, not that we will be. Haven't looked at the fixtures, but if say Bournemouth are top 2 and we are 10th or 12th we would surely go in as underdogs wouldn't we? I said in another thread that we need to come out of the blocks firing on...

Yup. When Thorn has got it right i am usually the first on here after games to tip my hat to him. When he has got it wrong i have rightly criticised him. I have never called for his head and cheer on the team every game. How on earth is that not backing the manager and the team just because I...