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But what else is he going to say? Dougs given me a team of dickheads and the recruitment is shit? Inm not saying you're wrong, just that I genuinely don't know where the issues lies.

Got to agree to disagree Ernie, no when they've downed tools.

Im not ignoring it, I'm doubting it. See the quote Shmmeee just posted. Towing the party line happens in all walks of life. You taking what the media says as gospel is a new one though

To be fair, I'm taking all quotes, even ones like this that back up my point, with a pinch of salt.

Don't think your opinion on EMC negates the fact that Wright downed tools, which is clearly what Robins alluded to after Swansea and was evident to anyone watching. Wright is clearly a better player,but we can't tolerate that shit. Also, people were saying the same thing about Wright this time...

Your glasses?

Not sure why MVE gets a pass? He's been awful.

Including his final season! Some madness on here today

But Robins gets the credit for the staff he assembles around him. I'm still sceptical about his involvement in the new set up regardless of what he says in interviews. I might be wrong, it's a hunch and nothing else but somethings not right. But there's a lot of variables involved here..

Which is why its OK for Robins to moan that players were taking the easy option, but I think they just couldn't cope with what they were up against. And Leeds are good, but they're not that good

Not for long

Well this is what Im trying to establish. If he was, then yes, its on him, but Im sceptical.

Mark?!

You keep saying this but its simple. good manager in any industry surrounds themselvws with people who can do the thinks theyre not so competent at. For example, Ferguson by all accounts was not the greatest tactician. So if Robins appointed the coaching staff then it's all on him, if he didn't...

Same. Although the match threads from around this time last year make familiar reading!

To be fair they target both our flanks regardless of personnel. We're as weak as piss down both sides.

Sounds like you didn't watch the game, lucky you!

Yeah, held my hands up to that error in an earlier post!

Is this 100% correct?

If we hadn't made so many back room changes in the summer and carried on in this vain under Robins and Viveash then I don't think many would argue the buck stops with him But with so much going on in the background, and no one clearly knowing who instigated the changes, it's hard to know...