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Thought Deegan started off well but faded. Would have had Keogh MOTM too. Thought he and Platt were the two stand out performers, along with Nimely.

As I said earlier, some of the points can be explained away. Some.

Was thinking more in terms of someone who never gives up, chases everything and battles to the last whistle. Think we only have one of them at the moment and that's Richard Keogh.

Thought he sounded at a very low ebb.

Is this a 5 minute argument, or the full half hour? :thinking about:

What the fook is 'my side?' I don't have a side. I have consistently called for Thorn to be given help rather than be sacked. What side is that exactly? :facepalm:

But you are making out that i force my opinions upon people. I believe that not to be the case. Therefore I wonder what you think these opinions are that I force upon people?

Hate to say it, but we could do with 11 Michael Doyle's at the moment.

Yep. And we were so close today. Had we won we would have been within 4 points of Millwall. It wouldn't have taken much for that result to have gone in our favour. However, the mentality is wrong. No doubt about it I feel.

Don't see how anyone can come out and say that all those 21 points are simply down to superior opposition / opposition having a stronger bench / tiredness / inexpereince / lack of squad size. Some of the points for sure. But all of them?

Not taking the high moral ground. Just tell me exactly how making out that anyone who wants Thorn out is thick contributes anything to any debate on any level? What is my opinion exactly then? Please do tell me.

Think it is actually 21. It was 18 this morning.

Yep. I would definitely keep Thorn as a scout. As I say, it has now gone past the point of whether Thorn is crap or good. Change has to happen. It's either that or certain relegation. We are pretty much down already, but there is still a smal chance of survival. While there is still that...

I think today was the final nail in the coffin ....... Unless we try something different.

What the fook is it with this thread? Unbeliveable. Sure have opinions, but if the only thing people can come out with is just how stupid Thorn out people are, then that's all very petty and pathetic. Posters may not have said 'stupid' in so many words, but the inference is there. Is this...

I'm losing heart too. I love my club, but should that really involve 12 + years of pain and aguish. Success wise across the leagues we are the worst team of all. No promotions, not even a play-off. It wears you down. It's all so very sad.

Agree. The mentality has been wrong for some time. This is our lowest ebb for an age though. Relegation would be a disaster. We have to try anything and everything to give us any chance. Also agree, it can get worse. Much worse.

Don't think AT can be blamed particularly for today and now it isn't even about whether he is good or crap anymore. What it all boils down to now is the mentality within the club and that is clearly wrong and there is an air of defeatism. It's got past the stage of pro Thorn / anti Thorn. This...

Thought he played well again.

The guy on the phone in is a knob because he believes Thorn incapable of motivating? Is he not allowed to have an opinion then and because his opinion differs from your own he's a knob? Didn't particularly agree with the call, but in no way did he come across as a knob. :(