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  1. Ian1779

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    Palestine
  2. Ian1779

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    I meant in context of size - yet it’s still important to deal with. There is still more cases of anti-semitism in the Conservative party (which is naturally more of a home for Jewish people)
  3. Ian1779

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    They haven’t got a problem - they have a very small issue.
  4. Ian1779

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    In 2017 I’d agree totally - and more galling is that fact that people in the party tried their hardest to undermine from within. The momentum and public feeling was there then. However the moment we turned away from not respecting the vote we were done for (I said this repeatedly at the time...
  5. Ian1779

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    But the plan was always to re-nationalise on expiry of franchises. The cost element was calculated but was never going to happen. It was the media strangling the truth with a lie. Easy then to roll out the ‘how we will pay for it all’ line.
  6. Ian1779

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    Ideology trumps all in the age of identity politics. We were fed a narrative that everything wrong in society was down to immigration (immigrants) and there will be people that think every problem will be solved by leaving the EU now. Those who wished to leave the EU for other reasons that...
  7. Ian1779

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    If you are right about the decision being pre-Starmer - which isn’t clear from the article either way, he needs to come out as the leader and insist that this is submitted. If not then it ‘appears’ that the unity line he said last week is actually not the case. Seeing as the ‘grown ups’ are...
  8. Ian1779

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    It was a campaign on Boris’ terms - he set the agenda, he already had the tag lines ready to go. We pushed for an election we didn’t want. Political suicide at its finest. Just look at Swinson... hers was even worse!
  9. Ian1779

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    The only thing we ever disagreed on was Corbyn. I believed (and still do) that he was a decent man with decent principles and the right moral compass. I concede that is clearly not enough - as much as that frustrates me. The whole Sky News thing is showing what lots of people always believed in...
  10. Ian1779

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    It’s not he’s to blame as such... it’s the fact he ‘appears’ to be blocking it going to the EHRC... why would he do that?
  11. Ian1779

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    You know why: 1.we failed to give any clarity on Brexit and should not have attempted to go against what people voted for. Boris had ‘Get Brexit done’ - it resonated, he played it perfectly and Labour gave him all the ammunition he needed. 2. Maybe we tried to flood too many policies in one go...
  12. Ian1779

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    Realistic opposition is the biggest fucking misnomer of all. What you mean is compliant opposition.
  13. Ian1779

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    You said this crisis would be worse under Labour... with no discernible or credible evidence to back up that view. I’m calling it out because it’s a) pure whataboutery b) deflection and c) total bullshit. It is a global emergency, and yes it has hit some countries very badly. But we had the...
  14. Ian1779

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    You claim to be neutral yet have troped out this nonsense with literally not 1 shred of evidence to support it (mostly because even you know it’s bullshit) So you’re not neutral in the slightest... and making out so is laughably worse than what you accuse some of being.
  15. Ian1779

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    ‘Yeah but you know the loony left will bankrupt us with their ideas of adequate medical equipment and an ample police force to fight terrorism at home..... blah blah blah something about Venezeula’ ‘who the fuck do these Cubans think they are with their medical equipment and doctors to help us...
  16. Ian1779

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    Just ask Phillip Hammond
  17. Ian1779

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    Don’t worry G and Dom will be here soon with deflector shields set to maximum.
  18. Ian1779

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Palestine
  19. Ian1779

    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    As long as centre left means just that... not the covert right that it has been previously.
  20. Ian1779

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    It’s funny you know, because alarm bells ring in my head over Starmer, not because of his ability at all or even his politics - but the fact that people like George Osbourne are clamouring to welcome him...
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