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The lefts way to address crime and immigration is to try and look at the root causes behind the problem... the populist option is blame the foreigner without ever making any headway to fixing it. We know which way wins however - as per your point about looking like you love other countries more...

Brexit means Brexit mate...

I don’t think we will be cruising the avenue between good and bad, but more between bad and absolutely fucking catastrophic.

I’d say more 5-8 despite them being down to 9 men...

If you compare death rate versus ‘tested’ and death rate versus ‘population size’ - we are shit in every regard. It’s not about a manipulation of statistics (although I understand your point) it’s the fact that in any measure we’ve totally fucked it... and as yet there doesn’t appear to be any...

I don’t know about other countries - may very much depend on how/where they test/trace/track. We as a country have not done adequte testing or tracking of the disease, especially in care homes. It’s not scaremongering is it to suggest that a virus that has killed over 20K in hospital alone...

Man calling out government should be ashamed.... standard.

Not really - it seems to be generally accepted that care home deaths would likely double the hospital confirmed deaths.

About fucking time - should have happened 3 months ago.

I’m going Carlisle

Premier - Furthest Newcastle Championship - Furthest Middlesbrough League 1 - Furthest Sunderland League 2 - Furthest Plymouth or Carlisle

And again the rumours are flying about...

Is she sure? Her grasp of numbers is not the greatest.... EDIT: I’ve checked - she said it was down seven and twelvty percent to eleventy and three.

You’re right.... what time did you log in again?

That would actually make sense - McDonalds could go straight away in drive-thru mode for example.

Thank God for Brexit eh?

Thats really good to hear. It makes you wonder why Universal Credit can’t be as simple... (maybe that’s for another day but the point stands)

Or add #thankgodforbrexit

Some of his supporters don’t even listen to a word he says just believe it verbatim. I don’t know if you heard his speech earlier in the year on renewable energy/windmills (Michael Spicer does a very amusing voiceover to it) but people were cheering to agree with the utter nonsense he was...

I think those two are just out of their depth TBH. Whereas Boris is just a manipulator.