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Yes, if you want to advertise that nowhere else in the world is more deliberately and overtly unjust in terms of the distribution of wealth and privilege.

I thought the royals always stay out of politics? I agree it would be a hard sell, people don't like change... better the devil you know and all that bollocks!

Cameron and Co are already here Dave. (not my choice) No need to replace them with anything.

I wonder why that might be? :facepalm:

It's a fact. Either accept it or indulge in the great British tradition of denial.

Yup, they are symbolic of a culture of privilege and poverty that should be a thing of the past.

From someone with your musical tastes I think they can both take that as a compliment. :D

Plenty to debate in that 'valuation'. For example; given that very few tourists meet the royal family, what is counted as 'royal' tourism? A visit to The Tower of London? Or Buck Palace? Would that tourism dry up overnight? But still yes.

Where did you get that figure from Dave? But yes.

He did bloody well to write all those plays then!

I'm a republican and I object to being forced to pay for the lifestyles of people who were not elected.

I'm a republican, but I do wish her a a happy birthday. No contradiction there for me.

That's stretching it to be honest Bry.... see Chief Dave's post above.

So 2 police officers were having a conversation about whether or not something that doesn't exist was in working order? Is that what you are saying?

I think what is clear from the last few pages is that either Mr.Wynn or marcus are lying/mistaken... I know where my money is.

So Wynn is a liar?

From Wynn's account: ''I overheard PC Allsop asking the custody officer whether or not the video camera in the cell was working. The custody officer replied that it was not'' So... questions: 1. Why would he ask if it was working if he knew it didn't exist? 2. Have you been in those cells? 3...

I'm sure I read somewhere in the recently published account of the Wynn incident that the cctv was 'not working'

Fair cop Bry! :)