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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nope, if that’s the takeaway from my points, your analysis is simplistic. I outlined how the UK parliaments makes law, which as we see, the EU plays no physical part. Furthermore, I said the EU can sanction member states. To summarise, the EU can’t force national parliaments to comply with its...
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In the 50s onwards, most European countries practiced capital punishment. The UK abolished peacetime capital punishment in 1965. This is before the likes of Greece (1972 & 75), France (1977 & 81), Hungary (1988 & 1990), Latvia (1990 & 96), Luxembourg (1979), Poland (1988 & 1997) — first year...
  3. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t believe I’ve said any of what you outlined. Don’t deflect now that you’ve used the example of capital punishment, said we couldn’t ratify the ECHR until it was abolished without realising we were the first nation to ratify it...
  4. Mucca Mad Boys

    Confirmed! - Michael Rose - Ayr

    How do you know this by the way? I’m curious? As for Shankland, Swansea and Rangers seem to be in for him, so it’s unlikey we’d sign him. That said, we’re quite an attractive club to join at the minute. Didn’t think I’d be saying that 3-4 season ago!
  5. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Britain was the very first country to ratify the European Convention of Human Rights, back in 1951. Before we outlawed capital punishment. The Human Rights Act of 1998 brought the ECHR into British Law and the our law pretty much copied the EU laws word for word As I outlined earlier, EU laws...
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    Confirmed! - Michael Rose - Ayr

    Not necessarily, we wanted to sign a defender in the summer. Personally, I think Davies will leave because he’s not getting game time. As for Willis, I’m struggling to see where he gets an opportunity to start week in, week out in the Championship. Frankly, we ought to have about 4 defenders and...
  7. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    With an Act of Parliament, yes. What’s your point? New Labour passed many reforms in Blair’s first term. The HRA, CRA, and so on.
  8. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The practice of capital pushiment was stopped before we even joined the European Communities in 1974. So, if that’s your cornerstone argument in the debate over Parliamentary sovereignty. You get a big fat F for fail and you take the loss on this one. Next?
  9. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Another red herring to add to your collection. The last instance of capital punishment for murder was in 1964 and outlawed by the Wilson Government in 1965, the only exception being for treason, the last execution for high-treason was in 1946. In practice, the law was defunct. The Crime and...
  10. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Now you've resorted to deliberately misrepresenting my views and arguments because you simply don't understand my arguments.
  11. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Highlight where I've used the word 'directive' once.
  12. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Given that we stand to lose more from a no deal Brexit, it's also probably on us to be a bit more flexible too...
  13. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’re going to have to do better than sending links because you don’t actually understand the content fully. Well, it is true, because no one so far can provide an example where the EU can actually stop Parliament passing legislation, because it cannot. You’re confusing influence and power...
  14. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Capital punishment for murder was abolished in 1965, and the last people to be hanged for murder was in 1964. This remained unused until Britain signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights. Either way, the Human Rights Act 1998 was an Act of Parliament passed by the UK Parliament and...
  15. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Where’s the broad statement? My argument is pretty clear. If you understand the concept Parliamentary sovereignty, my argument would be clear. What that means is that the legislative body has absolute sovereignty over all other branches in Government. In the USA, for example, the Supreme Court...
  16. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Where’s the broad statement? My argument is pretty clear. If you understand the concept Parliamentary sovereignty, my argument would be clear. What that means is that the legislative body has absolute sovereignty over all other branches in Government. In the USA, for example, the Supreme Court...
  17. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Cognitive dissonance at its finest. I didn’t say EU law and legislation was not legally binding. You’ve moved the goal posts. The debate isn’t whether or not the EU’s laws are binding, the question is can the UK make it’s own laws that contradict the EU’s. The answer to that is yes, it can...
  18. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’re fundamentally wrong here. I’m going to teach you how to piss in a pot. This is the process of how laws are made in the UK: Bills are introduced, there’s 3 readings before it’s put to a vote. If there’s a majority in the Commons, it goes to the Lords and if both houses approve, it’s sent...
  19. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Good, I’m glad my arguments are clear! I do want a second referendum, and I want a Labour government. In my first contribution to this thread (12th Dec) I said ‘this is going to have to be settled at the ballot box again’ and ‘it’s doubtful that any agreement will be passed in Parliament’...
  20. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m the ignorant one, yet you didn’t know that Parliamentary legislation became law after it was passed. With respect, that’s something 16-17 year old ‘children’ get taught in week one of a Government & Politics A-Level, possibly even younger if they studied it at GCSE. Ignorance is not...
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