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That's what he is saying, that Baker shouldn't have been taken off.

It was the tactics though just as much as the personnel. It was the system that suddenly stopped working because of the way Bury nullified us. It wasn't just about changing players it was about changing systems.

1st half Murphy - 10 Brown - 10 Hussey - 10 Wood - 10 Malaga - 10 Jennings 10 Kilbane - 10 Barton - 10 Baker - 10 Mcdonald - 10 Elliot - 10 2nd half Murphy - 0 Brown - 0 Hussey - 0 Wood - 0 Malaga - 0 Jennings - 0 Kilbane - 0 Barton - 0 Baker - 0...

That's what really grates with me. Yep, AT may well have told the players exactly what was going to happen in the 2nd half and to be ready for it, but what he then failed to do was to make the tactical changes to counteract Bury's changes. Bury made 3 quite quick substitutions in the 2nd half...

Thought the Boro could have up 2-0 up after about 15 mins and we were all over the shop. after that we played well though. Shocking isn't it. :facepalm:

over a 90 minute period? Sick to death now of these 20 min and 45 min efforts of good play followed by 45 mins or more of complete dross. Seems to me that it has been going on for years. Just can't remember the last time we played well all game. :thinking about:

He did one fantastic cross in the 2nd half and that was about the sum of his positive contribution. Just Hope Clarke is fit again soon.

We have now lost 6 points from winning positions already this season. Anyone else getting a sense of deja vu?

My apologies. Thought it was aimed at me. You do seem t o think I hate the manager though and I simply don't. 80% players fault today 20% management. We were out thought by their manager and we had no answer, so the finger partially has to point at the management team for me.

I said it was the players fault. Fook me you're hard work. :facepalm:

FFS I don't hate the manager and have never ever called for his head. :facepalm::facepalm: I had a headline in my head at half-time for a post I was going to make as soon as I got home from the game. "Well done City, great effort and well done Thorn." :facepalm:

Good. Glad you agree. Everything you have ever come to a conclusion on about me has been wrong.

Don't give two shits to be honest and have never complained about anyone ever. Wrong as usual Torch.

Exactly. Bloody exactly. Players to blame, yes, but we were also out thought by their manager. AT said he knew what Bury were going to do 2nd half, but he obviously had no idea that Bury would make 3 early substitutions unless he is Mystic Meg. Yes the players didn't listen, but then Thorn...

I'm seriously thinking of complaining about Stuart Linnell. Today: "There is a load of nonsense on the texts but we will come to them in a minute." What happened to BBC impartiality? :( It is not his job to say there is nonsense from the texters. It was obviously clear that he meant people...

I don't get it either. I'm not certain, but almost sure I am in the ATB even though I didn't subscribe or sign up. Guess people on here must have had me labelled, weighed and parcelled up ready for dispatch without my knowledge, even though when we do well I praise the manager. Problem is...

Can we please have a sub forum for those of a touchy nature and those who only wish an opinion that is in agreement with their own. Then everything will be all rosy and wonderful and we will all live in the garden of harmony where the bluebirds sing and unicorns dance around a maypole under the...

Don't get this 'protest' thing at all about Thorn. People are simply debating his strengths and weaknesses and compatibility with the role of manager. No-one is protesting.

FFS, why haven't we scored yet!! Muppets!! :facepalm:

10,791!!!!