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No he is now part of the groups of idiots who consistently said we were going down last season, they haven't posted tonight. Nothing wrong with being wary of relegation, from February onwards we were in a relegation battle. The ones who annoyed me were those saying we were going down and given...

So you're saying it doesn't happen? Come off it mate. Only one on here mentioned it tonight (as far as I can see) but everytime we lost last season people were tipping us for relegation which by the way they were proven to be wrong. These are the idiots I was talking about. I notice how you...

Maybe Mowbray thinks the same as me that Mcleod isn't actually that good and not worth a decent transfer fee.

I honestly reckon some people would actually be bitter if we done well and got promoted, they wouldn't be able to stomach that we had a relatively successful season under SISU.

The guy I quoted said we need at least 3-4 players just to survive. Not surviving = relegation, do I have a different meaning of relegation to you?

We won't go down, the idiots on here say we are nailed on for relegation after every defeat since the beginning of the internet. No chance we will go down.

Hasn't trained with the team yet

No, he posted sarcastically. The guy is a simpleton

G Thomas and JOB on for Tudgay and Swanson

Sounds that way, Tuday at striker. Swanson, Lameiras and Maddison playing behind him in the attacking roles. Vincelot and Fleck in centre midfield

Lameiras is gonna be a brilliant signing I reckon

JOB only on bench, will be interesting to see if he makes the team for the Wigan match.

Only slight downside is it is only 6 months, I imagine the plan is to move him into the championshipin January if he performs well.

Superb news, only young but sounds one of the best english prospects in the country of his age.

Is there any ruling saying he can't play if he isn't signed in time? It is only a preseason friendly after all.

We could have 7 loans for all I care the important thing is you secure the player for the season rather than changing the team every 2-3 months

It was called optimism, we're not all moaning miserable bastards you know.

What do you base heading for another season of failure on? I for one am optimistic for the upcoming season.

Ricketts - ideal captain and captained a team out of this league not long ago Johnson - one of the best players in the division when fit Stokes - Key player when Mowbray arrived Lawton - Won't play much anyway Vincelot - Quality player at this level Tudgay - Key player when Mowbray arrived And...

Not a bad shout