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Barton and Kilbane go missing in the second half because of fitness or their lack if it, not because their heart isn't in it What, the Barton who played well for 80 mins against Birmingham and the Kilbane who played for the whole 120 mins including extra time in the...

Most of us do know about Ince and Macclesfield and he's been living off the back of that since. It was his first job in football management. He did brilliantly but it has been very much downhill since then. Almost akin to a honeymoon period. I think he would be a terrible appointment. At Notts...

It is to do with passion though to my mind. That is part of it at least! We are taking the leads in games and then it is quite clear that players are disappearing out of games as the match wears on, Barton, Kilbane and Jennings being the main culprits. How can it have anything to do with...

Question is, why are the 9 new players we have brought in not full of confidence? Surely you bring 9 new players in you bring new enthusiasm. Have we really got to them all so quickly, just 5 games in? :o As for Baker? I am really losing patience with the lad. He should shine in this...

I do have to ask though, why is losing at home to Stevenage at home beyond comprehension? We are a League One side now and we have to just accept that the likes of Stevenage and Leyton Orient and Crewe are going to be beating us, even if we end up having a good season.

That sounds like the City, losing out by one point.

Kilbane has been everything we thought he wouldn't be. Was expecting a leader, a big influence, someone who would keep the side ticking, be in the thick of the action and would be a class above most of the League One players. He's not been a leader, had little influence, has drifted out of...

Well luckily we are away and our away record is impressive so of course we must fancy our chances.

Course it's not the lowest ebb. We are only 5 games in. We can fall further still for sure.

That's sloppy anyway isn't it, cos Steve Staunton said yesterday that he wasn't interested in the job.

:D 'Other names being mentioned include Dennis Wise, Kevin Blackwell, Billy Davies and Eric Black and it is expected that the highly debatable foul by Elliott on the Boro keeper. ' Maybe 'It is expected that the highly debatable foul by Elliott on the Boro keeper ' is actually a person...

Depends how Manning stands-up and whether he can stay healthy. My brother used to live in Denver for a number of years so I do also follow them too.

McSheffrey should be nowhere near the captain's armband. Should be someone like Wood.

He most certainly isn't. Certainly not setting any example and disappears from a game rather than be controlling it.

2nd best prospect after Andrew Luck. Robert Griffin though shone the brightest today for sure. 2 TD's. 40-32! :claping hands::claping hands:

Barton seems to be exactly the sort of player we don't want at the club unfortunately. Only basing this on what we have seen so far of course, but all the things the Preston fans were saying about him have so far rung true. Silky skills, lots of quality, but lacks the bottle for a fight, ambles...

I don't recall anyone claiming they were Shaws' and Carsley's signings as well. Always thought the assumption was that they were Thorn's. Still early yet of course, but skills they may have, at the moment though, appetite for a fight they seems to lack. All the attributes I wanted to see in...

My reply was aimed at the OP and not you, Rev. :whistle:

Yep. a Very ill thought out post. Let's move on. You're trying to make a point about Thorn, but the new players seem to lack the appetite for a fight, have all but no fire in their bellies, lack determination and spirit as well as a bit of pace and strength. Who brought those players in...

McGoldrick - 7 Plastic bag blowing across pitch - 7.5 (MOTM) Rest of the team - 2