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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    Season tickets for 2024/2025 season

    I seen this on the website and I’m looking to get my seat next to mates who have a STH in their groups who are not renewing. My understanding is that those seats of people not renewing will be released on Friday, is that correct?
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    Callum O'Hare

    This doesn’t surprise me but I hadn’t seen the data to support my bias. His passes have also got less progressive too, so I don’t think him leaving will be a disaster. It’s nowhere near losing a Hamer, Vik or Sheaf. He could be all action but perhaps needs a proper preseason and to get out of...
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    Season tickets for 2024/2025 season

    I thought they’re released on Friday but for some reason we need to secure our seat by 10:00 today. I’m in the FZ and need to move out because my brother is no longer an U18.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    If you actually care about the NHS, the worst thing you could do is pretend everything is all ok and money will just solve all the problems. It’s wishful thinking and even Labour accept that is not a tenable long term solution. There’s no easy answers and without meaningful reforms, the NHS is...
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    It’s from one of Attlee’s biographers. The decision to reintroduce prescriptions caused Bevan, Harold Wilson and others to resign from government. It was a twofold issue, there was a pressing need for defence spending (as it is today) as well as people overusing the new service. Then there’s...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    No they’re not. In France, private health insurance patients can’t skip the queues like they can in this country. This apprehension around reform and considering other concepts that other healthcare systems do compared to us is a blocker to fixing the issues we have. It’s paranoia to think...
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    The argument was made by Attlee’s government (including Bevan) and his early Tory counterpart McLeod. The exact quote is something about being a deterrent against ‘overwhelming surgeries’. Again, since its inception the issue of extra costs have been floated about. Specifically around GP visits...
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    When the NHS was founded, prescriptions were free of charge and this was scrapped in 1952. They tried a abolish said charges in 1965 and reintroduced in 1968. The reason because people were overusing the system and it put pressure on the system. Hence, we have means tested free prescriptions.
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    I don’t disagree with the principle at all but as mentioned with the late fees, it can drive this up and the costs of chasing unpaid late fees could be costly. In other systems, you pay to see a doctor in advance of the appointment, it varies country to country but using France as an example...
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    What a ridiculous thing to say. Universality is a feature of most European healthcare systems and indeed the Australian system. Again, we use private hospitals in the NHS as things stand so it’s not incompatible with our model. If the NHS dies because well meaning people thwart any rational...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    At the current trajectory, the NHS will have introducecharges for GP visits and hospital stays, we already have to pay for prescription fees. In both France and Australia, the health insurance is socialised and it funded similarly to how our own national insurance works - direct from pay...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    You’ve not been reading this thread have you? France and Australia, two examples highlighted operate on the same principles as the NHS. Their funding model is different.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Firstly, the cost of maintaining a hospital/school is day-to-day spending so yes, PFI was brought in manage this and outsource the spending from government spending. With SHI models, everyone gets cover so people ‘losing healthcare’ is a boogeyman comment. The big problem Shmeee is that...
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    Aren’t perfect, yet beat NHS on most metrics because their funding models funnels money more directly into patient care. There’s an acceptance from Shmmeee and Fernando that the health outcomes are worse because of obesity and/or poverty.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Don’t get me wrong, insurance based systems aren’t perfect but we’re already in a two-tier system. If you can afford PHI, you get to skip the waiting lists. It’s wrong and people and the workers in the NHS deserve better. Exactly, and if a nation chooses to fund its healthcare via taxation, as...
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    There’s a few conclusions to draw, namely that the French system is better able to allocate funds because the budget isn’t centralised. The idea of ring fencing certain taxes seems like tinkering around the edges - ‘sin taxes’ doesn’t drive that much tax revenue. It’s worth noting that their...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    You should, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    The service we’re getting is one of the worst in developed world - with only the US faring worst. You’re making the mistake of equating SHI systems with full privatisation when it’s the same. Universal and equal access to healthcare can be achieved using insurance based models. This provides...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I’ve not said anywhere that the public sector never works. The statement was that the private sector is more efficient than the public sector. Which is uncontroversial and backed up by data Are you getting a better service from public services? That’s the point here because right now, our...
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    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I’ve never said anywhere the public sector can never work. You can’t just do away with it. Saying the private sector is more efficient isn’t a radical thing to say. When you measure productivity/output the private sector is ahead of the public sector. One statistic to give you an idea is that...
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