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What is your point here? It sounds a bit like you are saying there is no point in trying to stop terror attacks because you are more likely to die in another another way. But surely you dont mean that as that would be a disgusting view to have. Should we also stop all research into 99% of all...

Well yes, it will only become known that they hold that view if they express it.

If human rights are not a problem then that's great, it means less hoops to jump through. First law I would pass is to make it illegal for people to hold views related to Islamic extremism and punishable with a minimum of a 5 year sentence even if no direct links to Isis can be made Second...

So why don't we pass new laws tomorrow which make it easier to arrest and prosecute terrorists? Make it so police have more arrest powers and so less evidence is required in court cases of this nature, if you are suspected as a terror threat the burden of proof should be to prove you are...

Yet it seems parties and viewpoints that are considered as neo nazism is allowed as long as they dont make direct links/reference to the Nazi regime. Why?

And if we had amended the law so what he did was illegal then people would have been in uproar about human rights over it.

I don't give a shit about Theresa May, I'm not a supporter of her. If she did that then she's an idiot. All I care about is people being safe

Thanks for the useful info, clint van damme. having read up briefly, I agree the lifting of control orders was definitely a big mistake, it seems they were removed as people were worried it violated their human rights as I alluded to in my previous response to you. Bring them back and who gives...

Interesting reading about when the control orders for terror suspects were scrapped in 2011. Before they were scrapped, terror suspects who couldn't be prosecuted or deported could be monitored by electronic tag, curfew imposed, restricted from going to locations where other known terror...

Don't know much about control orders and how they fit in with human rights, it could be argued if he is prevented from returning and has partner/kids/parents/siblings in the UK that he has been living with for however many years then you are denying his human right to a family life which is part...

I don't disagree that they need more man power. but I also see a link between people who were known to security services and were still allowed to plan and carry out these attacks. After it was known this man was an isis supporter, what prevented us hauling his ass to jail? Was it that they...

So that is what prevented us locking up the london terrorist when he was going around the public park with an isis flag on national tv? Is it that there weren't enough police or was he protected by human rights law which give him freedom of expression and thought

Clearly something is preventing it as we have thousands of terror suspects allowed to walk free until they commit murder.

That is what they are saying essentially. But if we make these things illegal, people will just cry we are abusing their human rights or freedom of speech or whatever. Thus in certain cases human right laws need to be changed to allow us to make these things a crime.

Without knowing a full history of Human rights, am I right in saying they came to the forefront globally after ww2. And the catalyst for this was the Holocaust with the extermination and persecution of Jewish people at the hands of the nazis. Human rights were designed to protect the right of...

Just to add about that Italian man, when he was stopped in an airport flying to Syria or wherever. He told authorities he was going to be a terrorist, all that was done is he was added to a watch list.

Good Why protect the human rights of those who are actively seeking to remove our human rights.

What do you mean? I'm not directly having a go at the police/investigators, or at least wasn't trying to do. I think they need more man power, as well as a change in law to give them more legal power to round up these suspected Isis supporters who are walking free and put them behind bars before...

Just typical laddish behaviour apparently

Ok, people going around supporting Isis and terror attacks could just be lads being lads and we should accept this is now normal. Utterly appalling, we must clamp down on this sort of behaviour. This is not normal anti social behaviour or your typical yob giving it the biggun on a Saturday...