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  1. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    We also have obligations as UN members and even as NATO members. The WTO is having discussions on how its members support asylum seekers. Which begs the question. How many organisations do we have to leave before the Right has no one else to blame for a migrant crisis that they don’t really...
  2. skybluetony176

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    2018 is actually quite significant when you look at the asylum claiming process. Prior to 2018 the government had a target of an initial decision on a claim of 6 months, that target was quickly dropped in 2018 when it became clear that they couldn’t meet it, not that they were in most cases...
  3. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    As opposed to no chance whatsoever of being returned to another EU country. A deterrent to no deterrent. As already pointed out. While irregular crossings dropped into the EU they rose into the UK from the the EU. Take 2024 alone. Crossings into Europe fell almost 40% while into the UK from the...
  4. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    As final destination in Europe 8% would have been 8% for us. There would be no offsetting. The pretext you’re presenting doesn’t reflect on the reality of what the DR would mean to the UK. Clearly Brexit also took the pressure off France to stop the boats. We did that ourselves.
  5. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    It was the single biggest deterrent we had. To put it into context using the 8% figure you highlight that would have returned about 3000 of the arrivals in 2024 alone. Compare that to the big idea of the government that brought us Brexit as a replacement. The Rwanda scheme. The scheme many...
  6. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    So you’re basically saying that Germany would have had 6K more asylum seekers if it were not for the DR. You are also ignoring that Germany still prioritises DR as a route to returning asylum seekers because it’s success rate is high compared to other routes. 6K also won’t be the final figure...
  7. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    It isn’t for one simple fact. The reason we were a net taker was a political decision made by the then government. Them choosing to not use the Dublin regulation is not a failure of the Dublin regulation. You can argue it’s a failure of government if you like because the simple fact is the...
  8. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    If you think swapping less than 10k a year for more than 30k a year was the right thing to do then I admire your charitable nature. Then there’s the problem of the loss of ability to return them via the Dublin regulation. But then again with your charitable nature you probably don’t want them...
  9. skybluetony176

    Embarrassing

    May I politely suggest that you read up on the Dublin Regulation and why we had to leave it. Leaving the the Dublin Regulation makes it more difficult to send boat arrivals back to France. It also means it doesn’t matter if they have already been granted asylum in an EU country they can still...
  10. skybluetony176

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    They’re using violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims. It’s the dictionary definition of terrorism.
  11. skybluetony176

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    The governments definition of anything doesn’t mean it is what it is. They can pass legislation in parliament so long as they can whip the numbers. Exhibit A, Rwanda is a safe country. The Oxford English Dictionary on the other hand is literal and the literal meaning of terrorism is the use of...
  12. skybluetony176

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    There’s been mass protests all over Israel this weekend. Israeli Jews protesting about the invasion and the plans to permanently occupy Gaza. Demanding an end to the invasion and a negotiated return of hostages. Clearly all “anti semite Jew haters”...
  13. skybluetony176

    Match Thread Derby County - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 16th Aug

    A question for anyone who attended. Watching the highlights were the Derby fans as quite in reality as they seemed on TV? Even when they went ahead their celebration seemed muted at best. Our away fans on form as usual. Well done anyone attending. A credit to the club as always.
  14. skybluetony176

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I doubt anyone will be as happy with that outcome than you. You wouldn’t know what to do with yourself if you didn’t have a reason to be triggered. It’s clearly your soul purpose in life.
  15. skybluetony176

    12 year old raped in nuneaton

    I haven’t forgotten anything. The fact is that since records began the longest period of sustained growth in UK history happened under Blair and I’m specifically talking about growth as a counter to your concerns about growth. I actually didn’t talk about anything else simply to stop it being...
  16. skybluetony176

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    It was in their manifesto. As rail franchises end they’re returning back to public ownership. The first 2 (I think it’s 2) happened earlier this year. Great British Railways is already happening.
  17. skybluetony176

    12 year old raped in nuneaton

    Your stance on immigration says you’re anti. Growth doesn’t mean automatic increase in costs, at least not when measured against other metrics. For instance the last time we had a sustainable period of economic growth was under Blair. Important metrics such as living standards, average income...
  18. skybluetony176

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    I see Netanyahu has confirmed that they intend to permanently occupy Gaza. If it isn’t obvious to you why his government ignored intelligence from their allies and foes ahead of the 7th October attacks now it never will be.
  19. skybluetony176

    12 year old raped in nuneaton

    Can I ask you one question. Are you pro or anti economic growth?
  20. skybluetony176

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    It’s just a shame we left the Dublin arrangement in December 2020. It’s no coincidence that that numbers trebled the following year and have continued to climb ever since. If you’re looking for someone to blame blame the politicians who insisted we left that arrangement. Bloody Starmer… no wait...
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