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Course it's not the lowest ebb. We are only 5 games in. We can fall further still for sure.

That's sloppy anyway isn't it, cos Steve Staunton said yesterday that he wasn't interested in the job.

:D 'Other names being mentioned include Dennis Wise, Kevin Blackwell, Billy Davies and Eric Black and it is expected that the highly debatable foul by Elliott on the Boro keeper. ' Maybe 'It is expected that the highly debatable foul by Elliott on the Boro keeper ' is actually a person...

Depends how Manning stands-up and whether he can stay healthy. My brother used to live in Denver for a number of years so I do also follow them too.

McSheffrey should be nowhere near the captain's armband. Should be someone like Wood.

He most certainly isn't. Certainly not setting any example and disappears from a game rather than be controlling it.

2nd best prospect after Andrew Luck. Robert Griffin though shone the brightest today for sure. 2 TD's. 40-32! :claping hands::claping hands:

Barton seems to be exactly the sort of player we don't want at the club unfortunately. Only basing this on what we have seen so far of course, but all the things the Preston fans were saying about him have so far rung true. Silky skills, lots of quality, but lacks the bottle for a fight, ambles...

I don't recall anyone claiming they were Shaws' and Carsley's signings as well. Always thought the assumption was that they were Thorn's. Still early yet of course, but skills they may have, at the moment though, appetite for a fight they seems to lack. All the attributes I wanted to see in...

My reply was aimed at the OP and not you, Rev. :whistle:

Yep. a Very ill thought out post. Let's move on. You're trying to make a point about Thorn, but the new players seem to lack the appetite for a fight, have all but no fire in their bellies, lack determination and spirit as well as a bit of pace and strength. Who brought those players in...

McGoldrick - 7 Plastic bag blowing across pitch - 7.5 (MOTM) Rest of the team - 2

Has Kilbane been subbed yet at all? cos that is what has needed to have happened. The bloke doesn't lead by example at all for me and disappears out of games more often than not.

That probably rules Barton out then I would have thought.

Anyone else think this might still have something to do with bonuses?

Yep, maybe you were right. I didn't say anything cos I knew very little about any of the players. Heard the warnings about Barton though. Seems to me that he is exactly the sort of player we don't want at this club. If you watched Luke Freeman today for them he never stopped running and...

You can't even mange 3 seconds?

I have been wondering if the board had been holding on in the hope that Shaw would have a good run like Thorn did and make the decision easy for themselves, with fans probably being onboard as a result.

My problem though is, though they look to have a good level of skill and the attributes to do well, they seem to lack spirit, fight and determination. Where's the will to win? 4 games out of 6 now we've taken the lead and thrown it away.

A winning mentality? The same Ince who in his last job took Notts County on a run of 9 straight defeats and then left by mutual consent shortly after and hasn't had a job since? That Ince?