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Struth - that's widened the debate considerably. Sticking to the central point...official predictions a couple of years ago were that the UK population would be around 70m by 2050 if I remember rightly. That is too small to be ignored as a market for business given our relative wealth...

I wonder how they voted? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

No...somebody needs to communicate decisions to the players or it would be anarchy on the pitch. If that were a proper game with tournament progression at stake...going to VAR would have been vindicated. In this circumstance - it is on trial, getting used to it as it is something new is all part...

They already DO go down at the slightest touch. That's why VAR has been bought in. If they continue to go down without any real contact they get booked or sent off or whatever. That should stop the cheats a bit at least. That tonight was a clear penalty in my view upon replays. He stood on his...

Well when it evolves into something more palatable, toned-down - it will no doubt be more attractive to the UK, which it will welcome back because our 70m market is hard to ignore Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

And there was all the same things going on conducted by the Remain camp - they just were not as effective at it! You formed your belief on the EU based on whatever (dare I suggest indoctrination at the time? I will assume not for the sake of argument) - someone fed you something that pressed a...

A Federal Europe which blows all your 'Sovereign nations' stuff out of the water! And a concept that will be blown out of the water within 20yrs Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

What something like...a Federal Europe perhaps? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

But those who fell prey to Mr Farage's rantings & spout them ad-nausea, are only as gullible & irritating as those who having lived somewhere like say...Germany & been unwittingly indoctrinated with positive EU messages, believe them & spout them ad-nauseum! Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I'm sure you are probably right on that. Fuck! We finally found something we agree on. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

You deserve each other Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

But if their supporters at ethe silent minority which does not exist they have no supporters - which is why they are always only fringe parties Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Well I am certainly full of hope atm. But we cannot afford any slip-up at all! Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Sorry to say this - but our record of winning the easy ones makes me a bit worried Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I think you will find that in every populous...some do take a step back & research data (& some of those research from very poor quality data, or aren't very good at interpreting it, & some are), whereas others don't Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Gasp again...Mart - we ARE leaving! Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Which is not what you are trying to do whatsoever is it? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

He said from Germany where he has not been misled in any way whatsoever I suppose? I mean how can it possibly be a 'disaster'??? It hasn't happened yet.! Do you expect some kind of personal briefing on the UK Gov't aims & tactics & a running commentary on progress??? Get over yourself man...

There you go again...assuming that I have been conned now. If this 'silent majority' doesn't exist - why bother referring to it? I am beginning to get both bored with/by you & erring toward agreeing with Grendel's diagnosis Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

But you keep telling us that the majority want to stay in the EU now. The relative silent majority in the run-up to the referendum have since become racist bigots, Nazi's, stupid (which is basically what you & your cronies are in essence saying), & at the very least - conned Sent from my...