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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Judging by many of your posts...you are one of probably only a few at the time to forsee what that actually would mean for us. We have far more freedom to make our own decisions on many issues being out of the EU. I think that is something people voted to leave for. What exactly do you mean...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Try telling your German friends that mart Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I did that already, but you fail to understand it or have not read it Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In the real world what I live in - yes mart Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What hidden agenda or desire do you have with this Empire/Empire2 crap exactly? Again, just because India says Indian immigration will be in discussions doesn't mean anything other than Britain & India will talk about it. Not have an open door policy or anything. Sent from my SM-G900F using...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Immigration is only one piece of a very complex jigsaw. For example a racist that went to live & work in Germany would probably selfishly vote to remain so they could continue their current life. They didn't suddenly stop being racist Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are or would be livid at all past governments over the last 30-40 years since they have all aided the process Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think that is bollocks Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No...and just because someone voted remain doesn't mean they are not racist Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Trade and immigration can actually be discussed as two totally separate items. Or are you now suggesting we don't already have immigration or trade with India? Future trade agreement will not likely be dependent upon us (nor India) accepting open immigration, or specific numbers. Just like...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But the actual evidence shows we couldn't influence or shape it to be better in how we see it working best for all. There were too many stark differences as to how thing can work best for the greater good. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In other words we have delegated our sovereignty to the EU?! Which is NOT what people in 1973 & '75 would have been voting to do! Regaining sovereignty is what people have now voted for. I think you have failed to grasp the concept of sovereignty! (Understandable from your EU bubble)...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As part of the EU we have given up powers of self determination. Something that in 1973 had voters for seen...I suspect they would have strongly voted against. In the EU - we are not truly a sovereign nation. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We agree then. Brexit has so far had relatively little impact on the value of the pound Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It isn't truly sovereign though is it? EU: is Britain still a sovereign state? Check out the last but one paragraph as you have made it perfectly clear that the majority voice has no place in Britain...unless it conforms to your view of course Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But where do you stop drawing the comparisons? If you look back - the pound has progressively weakened against the dollar since joining the EEC in '73. Does that mean we can actually blame EEC membership? Will the pound strengthen against the dollar after Brexit? Who really knows? Everything is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Wondering if such professionals' salaries are so relatively massive in Germany (& other EU states) compared to say a retail assistant like here in the UK? I suspect a certain greed here rather than a moral type approach. For example they (dentists) all start off doing NHS work largely. Then...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All that is fair enough Mart. Hope there was no personal offence taken, as none was intended. Maybe I was perceiving some point about this being EU relevant? After-all the overwhelming majority that voted Brexit would probably never have any intent to vote UKIP IMO. Sent from my SM-G900F using...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So this brother that you don't speak to does a blog and suddenly gains massive credibility with you because it 'fits' for your latest point? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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