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One local charity turned it down without even asking their patrons, "because Sisu...". That said, the charities we did send them to were very grateful and they went to some very deserving people.

If you have a better system please feel free to let us know. FWIW, the criteria isn't all financial that's only one element of it. The person mentioned on this thread has been looked into. They were not the direct recipient of the tickets but a family member of someone who was. There were...

Exactly. And we did make that point (and have continued to do so).

Anyway, negotiations are clearly still ongoing, so let's hope that both sides can move forward together with something that's mutually beneficial. One day I'd love to go back to only worrying about the football and not trying to understand contract disputes, legal cases and EU complaints.

In this case, it would be CCC that would be found guilty, and may have done something wrong. As I've said, I understand Wasps concern as they could be on the hook for something that isn't technically their fault. I don't have much sympathy though, they knew what they were getting themselves...

Unfortunately most of this argument is covered by a NDA so you won't see proof from either side.

Well, not all action would result in the reversal of the sale (in fact, I'm not sure the sale could be reversed by any legal action - even the EC complaint could only result in the extra cash needing to be stumped up). Future action against the council could just be compensatory against the...

I don't disagree. If something looks too good to be true, maybe it is. I don't know which way the EC complaint will go even if it's ever heard, but due diligence by Wasps at the time must have alerted them to the fact they were putting themselves in the middle of a huge legal battle and adequate...

I respect your opinion, I just disagree that Wasps should be entitled to restrict legal action against the council where it wouldn't have an impact on Wasps. I think we both agree that if the EC decision goes against CCC then that would impact Wasps, but there's not a lot that can be done about...

That's not entirely true. They also have an issue even if it was just the council in the wrong.

Ok, fair enough, if they're asking them to also stop any action against the council then it looks doubly bad. It's also important not to underestimate the bit about restricting the club and Sisu's basic legal rights. Could this imply that Wasps are wanting it to cover more than just action...

Wasps would have to pay up if the EC found against the council. Essentially it would be obliged to pay back the state aid it received. I can understand their concern as much as I don't necessarily agree with their stance.

Yeah, but that is trying to cover themselves and not the council.

Not quite sure what you're implying but I don't think Wasps have ever asked us to sign away any right to take legal action against any other party other than themselves.

Has he interacted with anyone?

We looked at him last year and decided he wasn't for us. We did find Michael Rose though, so was worthwhile.

I saw that. God help him. He'll think we're all nuts.

The important bit there is "relating to the sale and lease of the Ricoh". I don't think there has ever been any issue from the CCFC side in agreeing not to take direct action against Wasps for that.

It has everything to do with what we're talking about.

Exactly, there will always be some but I don't want people to think that those aren't just the exceptions to the rule. Don't forget that we don't always know everything about people's personal lives and this isn't just about pure finances. If anyone is concerned then please raise it with...