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You may live to regret that statement. :D I can't call tonight, but if Holland win I think the trophy is Germany's. I think if Argentina get though they will beat the Germans on Sunday.

Think if it's Holland germany, Germany will win.

There's an awful lot of bile and hatred flying round here these days. :( Surely we can all disagree with each other without having to get nasty can't we?

Germany themselves haven't been that good in this tournament. USA gave them a really good game, as did Ghana and then in the knockout phases both Algeria and France could have beaten them. Despite seemingly having a really good squad, this German team hasn't looked as good as in previous...

This was my first ever one. City kit 1969-1972.

Well that's how I felt during the game. I was in total conflict with myself. I was watching and kept saying to myself 'this must be fixed, but it can't be surely. It's a world cup semi-final.' The game just looked fixed. Can't believe it was, but it appeared that way as the game went on. There...

And as I say, I don't get this 'brilliant, outstanding' Germany thing. If your opposition plays that badly then I think almost any team would look like world beaters. At times it was almost like Germany didn't even have to put in any effort whatsoever to get the ball into the net, they merely...

Fair points, NW. Obviously going to a march and going to watch the team in Northampton are two completely different things. If Saturday was City playing say a friendly at the Ricoh then I dare say there could well be 15,000 there.

Just watched the goals again this morning on BBC Breakfast and it really does play out like a easy going play about training session, all at a mere jog. Yes, Germany did look brilliant, but it was Brazil who made them look brilliant. To say the Brazilian performance was even half-hearted would...

Travis I think would be the most likely out of that trio I would have said. Not sure at what level the Manic's are playing at these days to be honest. They would be quite a coup though for sure.

Either that or he was hinting that I was too loud.

Not very good? That has to be the understatement of the year. This was a Brazilian team, playing in Brazil, in a world cup semi final and they weren't trying, weren't marking, weren't tackling and didn't even look remotely bothered. As Juninho said at half time, it was like a training game...

Sorry, but one word keeps coming into my head. Fix! Can't be surely can it? Wonder if anyone anywhere has had a bet on a 0-7 scoreline. :thinking about:

My old school too.

Sorry, but have to say I totally disagree with Alan Shearer and totally agree with Alan Hansen. 'Brilliant, outstanding' says Shearer. 'Just how many bad mistakes do you want in one move here? 26?' Replies Hansen. I think any team in the World Cup would beat Brazil tonight. If you give...

But have you ever seen anyone play SO badly?

Surely, surely some of the players couldn't have thrown this game could they? Looks really suspicious that a side could be SO bad, especially the semi final of the World Cup. It really is being played out like a ex player's exhibition match. Beggars belief.

Yeah, could be, but what about by full time?

Saw the title and thought it was going to be a thread about Marillion not playing the Godiva Festival.

Brazil must be shocking, even England got a draw against them.