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If rugby incentivised the same kind of play acting that football does then they would be exactly the same.

Yeah I think we should wait for the court case and/or Dispatches investigation before we go down that road

Huh? Did they broadcast this on CBeebies or something?

Is it more weird than wearing a dress made of raw meat? Or pretending to be a cat? It’s not how I’d choose to dress down the pub, but I don’t think it’s worth a thread on here either

You don’t recall the week-long national news debate about whether the BBC had failed to protect a vulnerable child, or whether Edwards had committed a crime?

Pop stars are often odd - it’s ok.

Were it not for an ITV News investigation and documentary about his sexual abuse, Jimmy Saville would still be remembered as a loveable old eccentric. Much of the previous damage to his public reputation had come from the BBC Louis Theroux documentary. But I suppose that was all just trial by...

Oh yeah, can’t stand the guy’s music.

I didn’t twist your words, I asked you to clarify them. Personally I find the idea that being falsely accused of, say, torture is more traumatic than actually being tortured is bizarre. Not sure there are many legal systems that agree with you either.

Justice has to be seen to be done - if it happens in the shadows then the rich and powerful are often free to bully their way out of facing any scrutiny. Journalists and whistleblowers have uncovered all kinds of crimes and corruption, including some of the most heinous and notorious criminals...

So of all the most traumatic things imaginable that you hope never happens to say, your children, being falsely accused of something is top of the list?

Don’t really get why he bothers people so much - the way some people go on about him you’d assume his music videos were being beamed directly into every primary school in the country.

Brand has the right to defend himself in court whenever he likes - if these charges are false then he can file defamation suits against Channel 4 and News Corp first thing tomorrow morning.

Surely you don’t mean this literally?

It doesn’t, thankfully.

It’s a meaningless attempt to split hairs in the light of a rape accusation that we’ve already established is in no way “diluted” by other claims.

Jesus

??? It’s the very first thing you said about the documentary

It’s a television program, not a court case. If you can’t tell the difference between various degrees of predatory and problematic behaviour, to the point you start to question whether rape accusations are even criminal, then that’s on you, not the program makers.