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Christ, what world are you living in! 22 is most definitely still a kid! If you're talking football-wise then that depends. Players progress at different ages, but considering the fact keepers have a longer career, I'd say 22 is still classed as a kid for a pro keeper.

No no, let's all complain anyway

Got to agree with Liam, Burge looked good against Preston. Nothing he could do about the goal and made a great save from Davies after the defence had lost him again. Mistakes are how you learn and hopefully it's made him more determined.

This is over an article where he says "I" a few times, right? I mean, this thread is over that, not peoples general frustration with him. I can't help but think this might be one of the most childish, petty things I've ever read on here... and that takes a lot.

Oh Jesus, giving yourself a brain aneurysm over semantics. Worth it :rolleyes:

I'm sure they did. And he probably had a very low budget at Scunthorpe. So he's shown he can work under both conditions.

When was Warnock at Villa?

Unless they're doing well and have a free scoring striker. In which case, it's the players.

This I agree with, I just can't see it being anyone else. I really would love to eat my words though!

Don't even know why I'm debating, it won't be Adkins anyway! Hockaday all the way

I hate it when people do this. If a club does well it's down to the players, not the management. If a club does rubbish, it's down to the management. He got promoted twice by the way, reached a football league trophy final and kept them in the championship before he went to Saints.

I have no idea what that means?

He did very well at Scunthorpe! Hence why he was given the Saints job

But if it's Hockaday we could make up a chant along the lines of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_66wE3ehg And change it to "it's Hockaday, no win today"?

Back to back promotions wasn't it? And did well at Scunthorpe. Not my first choice but I think he's a very good manager

Well, this is true!

I didn't say too long. He's been out the game for 7 years and a lots changed within that time, whether it's PL level or L1. 7 years is a while, especially in terms of football! Still, we're not in London and he seems comfortable in his punditry jobs.

Don't know why people still mention Curbishley? Doesn't ever sound like he'll go into management again, been out the game for a while and loves London.

Perhaps West Brom? Got them playing great football, free scoring, took them to the PL. Don't think there's any perhaps about it.