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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Your “bigger point” @CCFCSteve was that the marches “won’t make any difference” - that’s what I’m trying to unpack here. Personally I don’t see how anyone could argue that a march attended by hundreds of thousands of people on a weekly basis in cities around the world “won’t make any...
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    What am I missing?
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    So you concede that the British government is playing a direct role in this conflict behind the scenes, but you still think a protest aimed at shifting the government’s position is pointless? Again, no-one is suggesting Sunak or Starmer have a magic wand capable of ending this carnage, but to...
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Correct - it’s another government acting unilaterally, but doing so with our government’s support (remind you of anything?) That’s the part (some of) the protestors are trying to address. This is not complicated.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Sorry, I was told to be careful about jumping on social media bandwagons about this one. Assumed you’d seen it in person.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    I think that’s exactly what these pro-ceasefire marches are all about - I’m not sure what else you think they’re for.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    The implication here that the pro-ceasefire protestors generally condone Hamas and the taking of hostages is just bizarre.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Which one did you go to?
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    The anti-Iraq war protests were never going to stop a war in Iraq either. You’re missing the point of protesting - the people attending do so knowing that world governments aren’t going to suddenly cave to all of their demands overnight.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Not sure who you’re referring to here, but there’s only one group of protestors which has vowed to gather in numbers at the Cenotaph on Saturday for reasons other than Armistice Day, and it’s not the pro-Palestinian marchers. I would take it up with them.
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Are you playing dumb or are you really stumped as to why people choose to focus on some issues that are meaningful to them, as opposed to every issue on the planet at the same time? Yes, some of those people are influenced by what they see on social media. Are you saying you’re not?
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Well it’s not much of a protest if you’re only calling for things that were going to happen anyway
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    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    There are all kinds of reasons - the British government’s support for Israel, the UK’s historical involvement in this conflict, the sheer scale of the killing, the implications for broader (in)stability in the Middle East, the global solidarity of Jews or Muslims with the Israeli or Palestinian...
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    Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already

    What do you think the US govt should do? I don’t think a Trump administration is going to care much about the deficit!
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    Referee

    Goal-line technology works great, and could presumably be replicated for offsides, although clearly the technology isn’t there yet. But anything that involves a subjective decision can’t be fixed 100% of the time with VAR - all it means is that the ‘wrong’ decision (i.e the one that pisses off...
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    Referee

    That’s one way to dodge my question! (Yes, I’m fine, thanks for asking)
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    Referee

    So he deserved to be, but we still didn’t call for it, is that what you’re saying?
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    Referee

    Did anyone call for the referee to be demoted or suspended afterwards? I assume so for such a consequential mistake.
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    Referee

    This is more or less how you would expect 50/50 decisions to land, isn’t it?
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    Referee

    I’d bet that more than half of teams in the league say the same
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