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I get what you mean, but it really doesn't affect me like that. It's more when I ask my mates who they've got this weekend and it's Utd, arsenal or Chelsea and then they ask me the same and I reply... Rochdale!

Did you not know we were in league 1?!

Like I said, if you don't want to go then fair enough. But don't come on here and say it's because it's not exciting enough. THAT'S what I couldn't give a crap about. And no, I'm not turning this into a SISU thing, so I'll stop you there.

But that's exactly what it's for. Players know the difference between a competitive game and a match where they are trying to implement new tactics/formations/players etc. To add to that, I'd much rather pre-season went badly in terms of mistakes in matches as those mistakes can then be...

Does anyone actually think players lose confidence from friendlies?

What's the point in debating that when its been said we're not even after McLeod? He's basically saying he's not excited enough so bugger it. What's the point in saying it? I couldn't give a crap, and I'm pretty sure most others couldn't give a crap.

Don't read the squad numbers thread! Dear God!

The core of that team is experienced enough. Ricketts, Johnson, Fleck, Vincelot, O'Brien and Tudgay. Not saying all will start, but they'll certainly help.

19 players there. Some won't agree, but all 19 can do a job if called on. So I think that's actually not too bad, especially with the addition of 2-3 more.

I can't see the bloody shorts in that pict... wait a minute :thinking about:

Oh yeah, that's the real issue here!! Also, are they?! They hardly look like Jupiter and Saturn to me.

What? I don't get it?

I made a similar point earlier. But you know, let people have their hysteria or I told you so's. I'll wait till the season starts before I become suicidal.

Oh yeah, I've seen a load of those "we're going to win the league" now that we've signed a striker

Oh. Sounds like it. I just can't take people like that seriously with anything.

Plebs everywhere! And wait, we equalised?!

Hehe!! That's got to be tongue in cheek, surely?!

And the first.

This is why I'm not that worried. This is the Mowbray way; pass it about and keep possession. We just need players to finish it off and I've every confidence TM will get them.

I remember us a few seasons ago scoring something like 13 or 14 goals in the first 2 friendlies of the summer. We went on to have a crap season. In fact, it may have been the season we were relegated from the Champ. Point being, friendlies mean nothing. Also, we still haven't got all the...