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Im saying that just calling everyone who has kids at a sustainable rate stupid is a pretty wild generalisation. If choice and education lead to a species that can’t sustain itself what do you do about that? People were telling me it’s 100% about finances. I only brought up poorer people having...

I hear Putin is great at wrestling bears and Kim Jong Un has the biggest dick in Korea too.

Old enough to do all that but can’t get insurance through Saga or claim the state pension or rent a van 😔 All the arguments are silly aren’t they really? But as we need an age let’s just make it 18 when you’re an adult and the government considers you an autonomous being.

Babies for some Somalians for others?

I dunno my ex went from class teacher to ass head as a single mum working part time.

I want everyone to pay more taxes. You don’t want that. Grrrr taxes. OK I want everyone to have more kids to the tax burden is shared more. You don’t want that. Grrr benefits. OK I want us to accept we’ll have to bring working age immigrants in to share the tax burden. You don’t want that...

Recent immigrants tend to start at similar family sizes and within a generation or two are roughly at the UK average. That’s assimilation for you. I think you wildly overestimate how many people are living off the state Nick I’ll be honest. It’s not every single immigrant and everyone without a...

Not sure age matter much other than the fact that you’re more likely to become infertile but yeah. We need a way to sort out the inverted population pyramid and that’s either make the bottom bigger with births, make the middle bigger with immigration or get everyone in the middle paying a whole...

If you’ve got a better one apply to 1 Nobel Prize Way, Sweden for your prize.

Why do you think old people cost the state a lot? It’s not cleaning up after all their parties.

I think what the evidence shows: that generally those kids grow up and pay taxes that pay for mine and your retirement and keep our taxes lower when working. You’re completely ass backwards on the economics of this. Because you’re trying to make what you see as a moral issue have some economic...

There is one solution for economies hit by low birth rates who don’t want to raise taxes or magically find a way to encourage more children. But I don’t think this thread will like it.

You planning to reveal your secret to perfect health to the scientific community or keeping it to yourself?

Weird how those slight training knocks only affected fringe players.

Kids cost a lot less than OAPs guys. In fact almost all kids are net revenue positive for the state cos they grow up and pay taxes.

So sensible it’s causing huge economic and social problems worldwide. Who will pay for you when you’ve decided it’s “sensible” for the birth rate to drop to where it is? If you’ve not had at least two kids, you’re sponging off everyone else in retirement. Ideally more than two.

None of mine were “planned” she got pregnant and we decided to keep them. That’s pretty normal throughout history. That’s my entire point, the change started with the pill enabling people to “plan” and once they start overthinking it they convince themselves that they, an average earner in one...

One of them was repeatedly raped as a kid and was convinced she could never have kids so when she caught at 15 was never going to give it up. The other sat with me over a period of weeks trying to decide what to do and ended up coming down on keeping the baby because she couldn’t countenance...

Im not the one who made the argument the longer you have to live the more right you have to vote. Every argument for votes at 16 makes as much sense as votes at 15 or 12 or 5. Considering the grooming gang report I don’t think moves to treat 16 year olds as adults is wise tbh. I’d rather we...

Right. We’re so smart not having kids. Real genius. Levels of literacy! Mate the two teenage mums I know could probably read you into a cocked hat. Both were on their way to uni. People like you convinced them that was a stupid dream for someone like them and they were better off as a mum...