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Players hit their peaks around 27-32. Simms just turned 23 and is at his first permanent club since breaking through. It’s not a lot to ask for people to give him time and not resort to fucking calling him a donkey. This negative shit does nothing but harm. Just seems like people were waiting...

A donkey? really mate chill out with the hyperbole. He’s a 23 year old lad adjusting to a new team whilst getting very little service. Yeah, winning corners up top on your own is one of the tasks of a lone number 9. Not much else he can do when the rest of the team are half the pitch away from...

Another example of money being able to get you out of anything. Paid his partner not to testify and then told by the court to donate to charity for the case to be discontinued. Nice world we live in. Not that we can judge too harshly, we did sign fucking Marlon King at one point.

How does torp gets credit for his worst performance since he signed? He was fucking awful, slow, had no bite in midfield and was completely walked through all night and his delivery from set pieces was piss poor. Had a decent 10 minute spell In the second half when everyone had their tails up...

I can’t believe Torp is getting ratings higher than a 5. Had a decent spell 65-80 mins but was absolutely abysmal the rest of the game. Looked way off the pace, was awful defensively, and even his set pieces were very poor tonight. Not a knock on him as a talent, just one of those nights.

He was in a graveyard shift first half. The in the box effort was non league level but his link up play was good, he put himself about and had the beating of their CBs for pace. If he had better service in the box, we’d get way more out of him. Him being restricted to long range chances is poor...

He’s never saving either of those. No keeper in the world are saving those. First one as far in the far corner as you can get and the second was hard and low about six yards out

Noticed that too, we had 6 vs 3 in the box I think, was such a soft goal. One of Eccles or Torp has to pick up that runner

If La Liga scouts were here, they’re probably going back to their clubs to talk about Palmer instead

Also need to put in some serious crossing work for MVE, doesn’t seem to actually look for a target in the box, instead just hopes someone will be at the end of it, not good enough at this level, look at WBAs second goal. Frustrating as fuck to watch. Great prospect, but work needed.

Nah that’s a cop out, WBA weren’t in second gear, they were just shit. Saved from two moments that got them goals.

Love Simms and how much he’s improved as of late, but I never want to see him shooting from outside the box ever again. seen it far too much this season with him hitting from hope from distance with better options on.

Acting like they fucking dominated us, they nicked 2 goals, first one just individual moment of brilliance and commentator acting like they just total footballed us to a 4-0 win.

Sky commentators have been a disgrace tonight. How the fuck have we not deserved anything out of this game?

Palmers been the best player on the pitch

Get in Haji, great pen C’mon city

That was a hard watch. i can accept the first goal as a bit of individual magic, but that second goal was soft as shit. Can’t see us getting anything out of this. At 1-0 it was still possible to get something, can’t see us getting 2 or 3 now. Would’ve been a different game if Eccles shot had...

Bizarre VAR check in this Utd game, absolutely clear onside how did that take so long, could tell you in real time it was onside

Forest have been asking for that, showed far too much respect to an average UTD side all second half. What a shit goal to concede

Fucking hate this late offside rule, if the linesman is certain it’s offside just fucking flag.