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if we were to sell him for 2 million then Sisu could take 1.5 million to help ease the financial situation and the 500 grand could be used to bring in a striker. The bottom line is we have SIX centre backs and need the money.

I've got a t-shirt. Am I now in a select club or something?

Think someone pointed out before that Sheff is a late starter every season. Can only assume that he doesn't fulfill his Summer programme and routine and comes back unfit and unready. To me he simply looked off the pace and more worryingly, disinterested.

If true I would snap their hands off. We have 6 centre backs and are losing hundreds of thousands of pounds a week. It's a no brainer.

Would agree with all that, Ashby. Pretty spot-on. Have to say I don't get this 'slating Bell but not McSheffrey' comment at all, Nick. Pretty sure both have been slated fairly and accurately and i thought both were awful on Saturday, albeit for different reasons. The reason I started a thread...

Who has said he is that promising? Fact is, we can't afford to shop around for someone who is that promising! Apparently Leshtur, Celtic, ourselves and Sheff Weds are interested. If it were only ourselves and League 1 clubs interested I could kind of see your point.

Thing is, we have too many central defenders. Now Keogh is considered to be a central defender rather than a full back we have; Cranie, Cameron, Wood, McPake, Cranie, Turner. That's SIX central defenders. Can't swap Turner as he is worth so much more than a swap deal with Rotherham. Cameron is...

Definitely the biggest away local derby of the season so far for sure.

I honestly wasn't trying to make any point with those stats. Just wanted to put them up for all to see. Over a season that could have been 27 in 35? I suppose in theory it could have been but football doesn't work in theory. Plenty of strikers had a purple patch and then not score hardly at all...

Not at all Tommy. But if the coaching staff don't rate him and do rate LeFondre then surely they are right to try and get some kind of exchange going.

How does the inbred chant go then? Can't say I've heard it.

Indeed. We will then have to start selecting from the under 14's. It's what I've been banging on about the past few days, Tommy. Usually you resort to the kids when the injuries kick in and you haven't got any further otpions. We are already starting with the kids. Where that is going to leave...

I think we are okay with 2 kids in at the moment, but I seriously wouldn't wish to see any more than 3 tops. Can see it happening though unfortunately.

I recall Bothroyd saying we wanted to let him go but no-one came in for him.

Here are O'Donovan's stats 2005–2007 Cork City 74 apps (31) 2007–2010 Sunderland 17 apps (0) 2008–2009 Dundee United (loan) 7 apps (1) 2009 Blackpool (loan) 11 apps (0) 2009 Southend United (loan) 3 apps (1) 2010 Hartlepool United (loan) 15 apps (9)

Mine didn't work. The four people in front of me had the same problem. The beam kept turning red.

Yes not debating that, but it was against non-league opposition. Think that is key here i think is that he didn't get a look in all season and when we tried to get rid of him and offered him up on a plate no-one at all was interested. What does that tell you? We simply couldn't get him off the...

Ireland? First teamer? Give you the other 5 though. Proves it I think. If we were to lose a further two players we could be in real trouble. Especially if it were say Clingan and Juke.

Pre-season? Against the likes of Nuneaton, Leamington and Hinckley you mean?

Yes indeed. thought both were excellent. my one and only worry is strength in depth. They were saying on the Beeb football show yesterday that Doncaster have 7 players out through injury. They then went on to have a further two players injured during yesterday's defeat. 7 injuries like that...