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Trouble is it will be on the Beeb maybe once a week at best. On ESPN last night I had to endure it every 15 minutes for 3 and a half hours.

He put him on the left? I was totally unaware of that. We need to play him in his rightful position.

Stop watching ESPN, focus on BBC. *Makes mental note.

No, dreading it. You do know don't you that we are going to be the number one target, the perceived 'big club' that everyone will want to beat and will raise their game for.:( Think we now just see ourselves as a small club on the slide, but in League One our new division rivals will see it...

As if we aren't already depressed enough. :(:( Constant ads broadcast for the upcoming FA Cup matches, with newspaper cuttings, headlines and clips of our 2-1 defeat at Sutton. Cheers. :facepalm::(

There is no doubt it has contributed. Well, we now have an attacking midfielder in Gardner. Let's see how that one pans out.

Sorry, but don't get your point at all. :( I am talking about if Thorn went now and someone else came in. What the hell has that got to do with how many players left in the Summer? Nothing is the answer, The whole point was that it is simply wrong to assume that no other manager could do any...

To be fair we don't know if or not is is Bigi's or Thomas's game do we. From what we have seen so far and that is not much, I would agree with you. We just don't know though if this is their natural game or the way they are told to play by Thorn. Pretty sure fans who have attended academy games...

Passing football in pretty little triangles, squad not good enough, no-one could do any better etc. No money, lots of moaning about the lack of quality at the club and the players being inadequate. Not enough goals or goal chances being created. We lose the manager even though no-one could do...

Unless of course we get Peter Reid back.

Well that's it. We know they are not a good bunch of players but it is still very clear that the manager is compounding our plight by adding his own mistakes to all the mistakes already in the pot

Well some may I suppose, but not me. I desperately want AT to be a success. Wish he didn't give us anything to critisise him about. I really do. Unfortunately there has been too much and we are only 19 games in.

Where am I contradicting myself? I am not contradicting myself at all. :facepalm: People would like to change the board, we can't. People would like to change the players, we can't do that either. People want to change the manager. This is something that can be done. Simple really. People do...

and how many points have we gained again? :facepalm:

Simply do not buy this one bit. Thorn is probably already responsible for more than 2 points lost and it's only 17 games in. You think he is only going to be responsible for a couple of points the entire season? :facepalm:

No, not at all. Think you are missing the point. I said the above but you are forgetting that I also said they are all culpable (board, manager, players). People want to change AT because he is making a number of mistakes and showing his inexperience.

But you know as well as me that the root causes are not going to be fixed! There is in fact only one change we can make.

Pretty sure it's impossible to do 90 mph in the gents. Simply no turning room.

We can't sack the owners. We can't sack the players. We can sack the manager. Also can we please put to bed this nonsense about AT being a scapegoat! Fans are blaming the board. Fans are blaming the players. Fans are also blaming the manager. All have a degree of culpability.

We have on many occasions. Last 2 or 3 games we have had Cranie, Keogh, Cameron and Wood. That's 4. Previous to that we had McPake available too for a few games.