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The ref was dreadful. He clearly gave a penalty though. there was no doubt in his mind. It was only our players going up to him and suggesting it was outside the box that then made him go over and check with the linesman.

An aggressive reponse because someone is accusing me of not supporting my team and that is something that does anger me somewhat as I have been a season ticket holder for many years, have never booed the team, players or managers and always back the team 100%. That was what brought the angry...

Not you. :D John.

Bcause history tells us otherwise. The lowest points total in modern history to stay up has been 43 points. So unless this is by far and away the worst points total ever you have at accept that teams will pick up points. Bristol won last night didn't they? If these teams all continue to fail...

Yeah, have a go at the fans that aren't coming, not the ones who have season tickets, go every week, fully back the team but simply accept the facts and the likliehood of League One. Have a go at those fans, not us.

Not this again. FFS. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: We DO support the team. Course we support the team. Have always supported the team and always will support the team. What a utterly daft thing to say. :facepalm: And I have been going up since the 1960's! What's your point? That you know...

Must win, because after Saturday we have two away games in succession. Our away form is just completely and utterly shite and there is no getting away from that. 7 goals in 17 games. That is just embarrassing and we are close to our worst ever run of away defeats since 1926! That tells you...

We need other teams to continue to fail to not need to though.

I did indeed. And a draw would have been a good result ..... IF Bristol had have lost like most of us were predicting and Millwall hadn't have won and Donny and Forest had been a draw or a Forest victory like most of us predicting. I said a draw would have been good because I was predicting we...

Had changed my tact lately to be fair. Had been saying that if could win a couple of home games on the bounce and manage a draw that I might believe we have had a chance. The reason for this thread was that people were saying we had to win all our home games (apart from Brum maybe) and Palace...

Seems like we were complaining that it either wasn't a foul or that it was outside the box. Well it was clearly a foul and was quite clearly inside the box. Completely baffled as to why our players were protesting so much.

Crap thread? :thinking about: I thought it was a very good thread and a very well reasoned argument as to why we seem to be doomed. Didn't think it was crap at all. Very rational and constructively thought out.

Just think we need to take the Sky Blue tinted glasses off that's all. We talk of winning all our home games. Last night that didn't happen did it. Chalk one off. Almost impossible ask for us to now win all our remaining home games. Very, very tough game on Saturday against Brum and a draw...

For the eleventy billioneth time no-one is blaming Thorn rather than Sisu. Some people just blame Sisu. Some people blame Sisu and Thorn. No-one just blames Thorn. Let's put this one to bed can't we. :facepalm:

Bristol away is so key. Good job we are a threat away from home isn't it. :o

We are the worst away team in the entire football league.

As I said Torchy, and you may care to read my post again, I was not using results in isolation. That was clearly not the point I was putting across. Just saying that the Leshtur result shouldn't have been as inevitable as people were saying it was on here.

But Torchy, people were saying we needed to win every home game before the Palace match. And I don't recall anyone saying we would get hammered by Leeds. And I am not using results in insolation. i was just trying to make the point that the Leshtur game shouldn't have been as inevitable as some...

It's not giving up though, it's facing facts. I think many of us have had our blinkers on. Where on earth are we suddenly going to conjure this away win from? We haven't even scored a goal in our last 3 away matches. :facepalm:

In view of the other results, last night's result for us was a terrible result.