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Starmer literally quit as Shadow Home Sec (I think) and backed Owen Smith to try and remove Corbyn in 2016. But hey, what do facts matter these days? (agreeing with you to be clear)

Tories gonna Tory

Don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there’s a leave.eu meme floating around Facebook with “Labour Leader Odds” shit like “Gerry Adams 15:1” and “Sir Keir Starmer of Brussels 3/1”. His is “Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis”

By all accounts he has no friends in parliament either. The bitch thing was totally overblown, but he’s clearly a bit unstable.

I missed this. What’s happened? *heads to google*

Who isn’t!?

Believe it or not but Watson wasn’t really seen as centrist in 2015, I voted Corbyn/Watson mostly because of his record fighting Murdoch and (at the time) the pedo thing. Obviously the second didn’t work out so well. It was only once he started working against Corbyn that the membership got...

Both at the same time assuming it’s like 2015

wait I edited.

Yes. It’s a tough one, but ultimately no actual harm has been done. I’d hope there’s severe social punishment but I don’t think the police should be involved.

I just hope Nandy gets a prominent role. Her analysis post Brexit has been spot on. Saw this the other day and while she lacks charisma for leadership, she’s clearly got great intellect and empathy.

You’re a member of the Finham Facebook group as well then :D

Poll from the Labour subreddit. Trends very young and Corbynite there for reference. Gives me some hope:

Same to you and yours buddy

The left as a whole are so bad at persuasion. Both socially and economically.

I really think all this talk of which faction is putting the cart before horse. Start from getting elected: - Who is our voter coalition? Look at polling data, which seats are winnable with which voters - What do those voters value? Lots of data around this again - Where do our values align...

Or you have other deeply held beliefs. Belief in science. Belief in feminism (this woman’s case). I’m not sure compelled speech is ever the answer to tolerance. It just breeds resentment. Civil rights movements in the past have worked on exposure and education rather than screaming bigot at...

Well his first job is to convince the membership so that’s why working with Corbyn works in his favour. I like Starmer, not been massively impressed by his pitch so far but I think he realises he’s got to get the membership first. I am worried he’s too Remainer for a post Brexit Britain, but...

Clive Lewis I’m standing to be Labour leader so the truth can be heard | Clive Lewis Ex-soldier, fan of PR and quite left wing but not Corbynite. Pros: Young, black, decent back story Cons: punches walls, loses friends, “on your knees bitch”

If we get Rebecca Long-Bailey you’ll know that’s happened. I honestly can’t tell which way it’ll go right now. I think there’s a large chunk of Momentum that aren’t as hard left as the leadership and have just had their first taste of political reality. Also Starmer has positioned himself well...