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Liverpool wanted (and had) Stephen Wright.

Oh yeah, forgot that. Surprised Graham has come out and admitted it. I wonder what age Alan came out as being gay? 18 months? 2?

You sure it wasn't his brother Alan?

They didn't dominate. They did look quite comfortable for the most part though. I know we hit the post but I can't recall their keeper having too many saves to make, if any.

Consolidate now surely! Then see where we are. At the moment we are second from bottom and haven't even won a single game. We get to Christmas or before even and are then midtable, then we can talk about expectancy of play-offs etc. We're second from bottom and at the moment we should be...

I agree. Don't think they will though. We even now still have fans talking about promotion and play-offs. Let's just get safe and consolidate first. Could be next season before we are challenging.

Let's hope we haven't seen the best of them. Was expecting the new players to come in with enthusiasm, confidence and bring a freshness to the squad. So far it is hard to make a case for any of them making us a better team. At the mo only McGoldrick is looking half decent.

Let's hope he can change the lad's ways and make him a more complete player. Interesting to note though that Robbins was only here 3 days and Barton not only didn't appear in the team, but wasn't even in the squad. Maybe he was injured mind. Let's see what happens I guess.

Exactly. If Barton continues to get picked and continues in the same vein then by the end of the season he will be another David Bell and the fans will get on his back. He has indeed been liable for a number of goals.

Berbatov remains a danger throughout the whole 90 mins of a game and always looks capable of scoring. Barton disappears out of games to become anonymous.

So fans having a say on how a player is as a player holds no relevance whatsoever? You think they just made these stories up? Everything they have said about him has rung true thus far. I would say what they have said is very relevant, otherwise we would all just come to the conclusion that the...

As has been said several times, the Preston fans were saying that we will find he doesn't track back, lacks heart and disappears out of games as the matches wear on. And lo and behold we have indeed found the same thing. He does 'look' our best player. He isn't our best player though cos he...

The FA Cup strip was so much better. I love that kit and not just because we won the cup. I really like the stripes. Psychologists have said in the past that stripes can give the illusion of making a player look bigger too.

It's not the Sky Blue it used to be for sure.

It is bollocks unfortunately. The comment upon the sacking that 'we could see the same pattern emerging as last season' from Fisher just blows that thought completely out of the water. The club saw the same thing happening as last season.

We had this same question a few weeks ago. Paxman and I were discussing the ripping up of everything and starting again, from the kit to everything else. As I said at the time, psychology can play a part in all aspects of the game and I do think there is too much association with the past and...

It's a fair comment.

Yup. :(:(:(

Yep. Those first three an awful lot of people think we should be getting rid of if anything. Did you not see Lynch's post about the players?

Back to the original point though, you have to say that 17 points adrift after only 8 games when we were one of the favourites to go up is an utter disgrace!