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And as Stupot says, fans start believing we can make the play-offs when a complete and total miracle is needed, is only going to result in Robins getting stick when it doesn't happen.

Been back checking to 1973 now. That's 30 seasons. No team in the bottom 4 after 15 games in this division in all those years has ever made the top 6 come the end of the season. :( Please I ask now that people stop talking as if the play-offs could be on. You're looking for Roy of the Rovers...

Indeed. Been back to 1992 now and no team in the bottom 4 after 15 games in this division has made the top 6 come the end of the season.

I'm staying up all night anyway so I can work out all the permutations needed for us to get into the play-offs. :whistle:

It is still very worrying. We don't score enough and let in too many goals.

Many of those teams went on to be relegated those seasons.

Getting results could just mean us becoming a winning side for once instead of a losing one. Top half will have been 'getting the results.'

Hand on heart can say I've never ever had to endure XFactor or Britain's Got Talent or Pop Idol or I'm a Celebrity etc. etc.. I wear the trousers in our house and I get to keep the remote!;) Besides, anyone mentions XFactor and I just reel off all the famous artists who are totally against...

My policy with women too.

Yep. Forgot to mention that. If people think we can still make the play-offs, then MR is going to get it in the neck when it doesn't actually happen. :(

Been doing some digging and have looked at teams in the bottom 4 after 15 games over the past few years, same as now. Pretty comparable points differential too between 4th from bottom and 6th from top over these same periods. Here goes. ...... 2004 After 15, bottom 4 Oldham MK Torquay...

I just don't want lots of us thinking that the play-offs are still on and then have us all enduring loads of wailing and gnashing of teeth when it doesn't happen. Rationality tells you it won't happen. Miracles do occur of course. Well that's what we would be looking for now. A miracle upturn...

I will refer the honourable gentleman to my post on another thread. We can probably only lose about 3 or 4 games for the rest of the entire season. When all these facts are put together it does make the whole notion look pretty daft doesn't it. Let's get it all into perspective ...

And probably only losing about 3 or 4 games for the rest of the entire season. When all these facts are put together it does make the whole notion look pretty daft doesn't it. Let's get it all into perspective ....... We are a team in the bottom 4 with the 5th worse scoring record and 6th...

So really, we are looking at winning at least half of our remaining games. :(

What the fook has the Russian president got to do with it all? :thinking about:

I would only start believing if we won something like 4 in a row, or 4 out of 5. We are still in the bottom 4 and still 11 points adrift of 6th place. It would need an excellent run of form to get us anywhere close and what is worrying me at the moment is that we are not scoring enough goals...

Never heard of him. :whistle:

Sounds more like a confession.

The point is the draw. The win is three. For a loss you get nothing. Hope this helps. ;)