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Agreed, so why are you now defending something that is undermining it?

i can't believe this democratic vote has got people so worked up yet David Davis deceiving the country and parliament over the Brexit impact reports received minimal scrutiny. Perhaps if the Brexit minister wasn't a proven liar the rebel MPs might not have felt the need to push this vote.

it is democracy, and if you can't understand it then you don't understand Parliamentary sovereignty which was supposed to be one of the big issues of the referendum. I doubt this will stop Brexit.

You think individual ministers by passing parliament is democracy though!

you think individual ministers should be able to by pass parliament to change the constitution? That's quite staggering to be honest.

why is it? Just because some tory MPs wanted a vote on the final deal doesn't mean they will vote against it, I'm fairly sure they won't. After all, David Davis assured them they would be consulted, they obviously didn't believe the proven liar, I wonder why?!

drinking injury, the best kind.

don't disagree. But despite all that they're still here. I've no idea what their motivation is as they surely can't hold out any hope of recuperating their investment.

But even with no home fans they would still receive revenue.

and yet they're still here. That tells me that NOPM, (whether people are doing it as part of a campaign or just because they've had enough), doesn't work.

from the Sun, June 2016: "BRITAIN’S greatest export, our chief contribution to human happiness, is parliamentary democracy. Our ancestors hit on the idea that instead of making up the rules as they went along, the people in charge should follow rules set by the nation at large. British...

and if that's the case, that makes protecting parliament all the more important. Can you give me a recent example of any MP so blatantly lying to the public and to Parliament as David Davis over the Brexit impact reports?

I didn't say I was happy. But I would except it to maintain the integrity of Parliament. I can't believe you'd rather leave it all to the whim of someone who has been proven to have lied to and mislead the people of the country.

I'm saying that the way they are trying to by pass parliament is dangerous and would set a precedent going forward. This is bigger than just Brexit. I wanted to remain but respect the result of the referendum. I don't want a hard Brexit but would accept it if it came about as a result of...

Hard Brexit would be a disaster, but not in the same league as letting the likes of Davis by pass parliament. If we go down that route we may as well get rid of Parliament all together.

When the express starts running brexit bad stories like they did the other day then you know something's up and there's a hidden agenda. I would not be surprised to see them try and get out of leaving. I think it will be catastrophic if they do and will take longer to recover from than a hard...

I had tendonopothy where the knee meets the hamstring. I'm a quick healer and it took me 8 weeks to recover.

you're very modest Rev, not mentioning the 12 hour night shift you did down the pit in between games - proper man.

I do want what's best for the UK. That's why I don't want parliament by-passed and major decisions left to charlatans like Davis, Johnson etc. Why would anyone think that scenario would be good for the country? I think you are correct about a hard Brexit, I don't think this will lead to that...

I think it's great news. Otherwise someone like David Davis who has been lying to Parliament for months and shouldn't be in a job would have far too much say over the final deal. The government still have a majority, albeit slender, just because some MPs rebelled over this doesn't mean they...