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You think that the recipient of state aid can get indemnity from the giver of state aid in case the fact they got state aid means they have to pay back the state aid? This has to be up there are one of the stupidest arguments I’ve read on this topic. And again, OSB has explained far better...

See above.

I don’t know IANAL, but if your argument is there isn’t any possible future legal action you’d have to explain why the club are willing to not play in Cov to retain the right to future legal action.

Not according to their own statement and not according to the Wasps statement, no.

Of course it is! They can do what they want legally. However the question is: Is moving the club out of the city for potentially up to a decade worth the possible gain? I say no, you say yes. I’d like to see your reasoning. Maybe you’re a gambler and have a higher risk tolerance than me, I...

“relating to the sale and lease of the Ricoh” Are you really pretending you don’t understand what the problem is? Really? You thought Wasps would be fine with continued efforts to reverse their purchase because they aren’t named specifically on a court document?

Then no body is going to get a deal at the Ricoh and we need to build our own ground. Maybe it wasn’t such a smart move to piss off your landlord without anywhere else to go?

And it’s been said in reply again and again that the threat of future legal action is a risk regardless. We’re talking past each other at this point. Frankly this sounds as plausible as my ex when she moved out of Cov despite the separation agreement clearly stating neither of us would “move...

We’re back to this. It’s a pointless argument. Even the club have to rely on Liquid Golds argument of “well ackshually we aren’t suing Wasps themselves so it doesn’t count” it’s hardly following the spirit of the agreement is it? Clearly Wasps want the threat of legal action ended to help them...

This is so disingenuous it’s hilarious. You know damn well Wasps want any action relating to the Ricoh stopped, whether you think they should or not is irrelevant, you have no power in this. Again, both club and Wasps identifies two blockers to the talks, the indemnity was one and the halting...

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Yeah but religion passes down a family more than just football. My Mums atheist but still sees herself as a Catholic as that’s how she was raised. My Grandad bought me a Celtic top as a kid because he wanted to stake his claim as it were.

Id agree. I think it’s pride and arrogance and not wanting to be seen to lose more than business sense. Wasps are either not as convinced as we are that the complaint isn’t stoppable or do know and are being recalcitrant out of spite. Either way our attendances won’t change that. Edit: actually...

That doesn’t say they’ve moved past the complaint. It says they’ve been unable to reach an agreement on no future action. Sisu confirmed this as “restricting the clubs legal rights” in the same statement about the indemnity. There’s no disagreement between the two statements, both state the...

Ive been hearing about this so called financial pressure since Wasps arrived, it doesn’t seem to have made a blind bit of difference. No company turns down essentially free cash without reason no matter the state of their finances. This fantasy of “wait it out” frustrates me, even if they went...

Why the deceit on all sides? It’s a clusterfuck. Have you got a link to their last statement on this? I thought they weren’t talking publicly because of the NDA

Same way they could last season, they think having leverage over the EU complaint is more valuable long term than the rent and other benefits of us being there. Our best hope is they realise there’s nothing that can be done to change that and decide not to punish the club for the actions of its...

A lot of people have celtic ancestry that informs it though, not many Brits hailing from South America. My Grandad was from Glasgow and a Celtic fan, so I’m nominally a Celtic fan in these arguments.

This is nuts. We aren’t at St Andrews for financial reasons. It isn’t because they want too much it’s because they don’t want us there while the EU stuff is going on. Either they change their mind and we go back or they don’t and we don’t. All this armchair crap about F&B and increased profits...

Cant blame the individuals for going into debt when you suppress wages for decades.