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sounds like some crackpot conspiracy theory doesn't it?!

anyone would think the Telegraph had an agenda!

isn't this either Moff or Hobos field of expertise? They might be able to shed some light on it.

can you sign up a multi account and use it to like your other accounts posts thus increasing your credit, asking for a friend.

I think the city centre is at a cross roads. Things are definitely improving but have a long way to go. There is going to be massive investment in the next few years leading up to the city of culture and there is no doubt that as the city expands it will become more affluent. Get it right in the...

pros-none cons-they'll bleed you dry and treat you like a c**t

I'd imagine it works the other way as well where we miss out on players but no one's aware. Saves a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

possibly, but buying a ST is a statement of intent to support the team through thick and thin in the coming season. Of course people can do what they like, just find it a bit disappointing, I'll get over it!

but there are those who big up our support as if we were something special and we clearly aren't. But it's embarrassing that relegated Barnsley can sell more STs than us.

not at all, and this is where the problem with threads like this lies as they become divisive. Like I said, there are plenty of people with very good reasons for not being able to attend regularly, and I would say living in Norfolk is one.

your company :D No, fair comment, each to their own it's just not something I've really understood. Though get the café and restaurant bit, I like to eat/graze out.

that's the problem with slating non attendees it sounds like your having a pop at people who have very good reasons not to go. But I know people who spent a small fortune at Wembley yet have no intention of going next season, (though if we have some success they'll be back on the band wagon). At...

I've heard people say this before, and to be honest I just don't get it, (unless perhaps you're elderly and living alone). Shopping is a means to an end and I do my socialising elsewhere, (football, pub etc). Though when clothes shopping it is nice to be able to try things on before you but...

House of Fraser and Selfridges have destroyed Birmingham as far as retail is concerned.

based on the anecdotal evidence of people I know and through reading this forum there seemed to be a lot of people getting STs who hadn't bothered for the last couple of years, obviously that hasn't panned out across the general population of the city.

I'm not expecting 15,000 Otis but the current sales are really disappointing. I appreciate that there is still time to go and then we have the match packages but even so I really did expect more.

to me that should give us more of a boost not less. Sunderland have been mismanaged for years and we all know how that can sap the enthusiasm out of the support.

I would have argued the toss with you about that post a while ago but I have to concede that it looks as though you're spot on CD.

I've been broke in the past Otis and not been able to attend games because of it, but I wouldn't have been able to cobble together a couple of hundred quid for a weekend and Wembley either. I'm not one for normally slating people for not going as I appreciate there are a myriad of reasons but...

depressing but true. Only interested in days out at Wembley.