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That’s not really true now is it? We may have felt we couldn’t continue, but the decision to do it without anywhere to go was very much ours. Sisu took six years to break the lease, and have had six more to sort a replacement.

I mean IMO the whole “CCC aren’t helping” is baseless, but I get that’s a fruitless argument on here. But isn’t the whole point that this is Warwick not Coventry council? Anyway As NW pointed out, other clubs have built grounds despite objections from hostile councils in shorter time.

Just using the club's wording:

Ah fair point. “Provided”.

We need to bring back this celebration.

Why is that a problem? We’re apparently getting a land gift and a partnership here too.

Honestly? Don’t know. That seems to be the assumption, but AFAIK no one on here is any kind of legal expert. We could really do with one. What’s your working theory? That Wasps are lying about setting the state aid case aside and don’t need to request a halt to future legal action? CCFCs...

I wonder how many players we’ve had 🤔 could you assign a seat to each player. I imagine people would pay a premium to sit in the Dion Dublin seat or whatever over the cheaper Onandi Lowe ones. You could auction off the popular ones for STs. I’m going to stop now, my capitalist instincts are...

I think everyone is being very careful with words here. Let’s see this indemnity, that’s what really matters here for us to judge if it’s reasonable or not. Frankly the rest can go hang IMO (I mean it won’t, argument will just shift back to whether it’s reasonable to ask CCFC to stop Pershing...

Yep agree with all of that. Differ on opinion of whether it’s worth pursuing for CCFC, but that’s a personal call. Everyone will have their own take.

From what I can tell it’s up to the EU/EC/ECJ (I never know which does what) to make recommendations and that can include all kinds of things. Ah you know what? I’ve just found the thing I was reading and maybe I misread. For curative remedies recovery is the most likely, see...

Ah misread. I’m very precious about not being Canley. I know people who lived just the other side opposite the fire station who would argue too. Sir Henry Parkes Road Id argue is still Beechwood/Canley Gardens, but definitely less posh :D More Canley Gardens than Beechwood Gardens ;)

Not disagreeing with your general point but Canley isn’t the other side of the A45. Trust me those of us that grew up just the other side of the A45 are not from Canley (Beechwood Gardens thankyouverymuch)

No one is talking about a 30k stadium. Sisus original plan a few years ago was 12k, now talk of 15-18k. I think 20k is about right until we hit the prem even if it does limit us for big games.

But the entire point of the remedy is to return the market to its pre intervention state. The scenario you describe would leave it as it is, so not remedied. I’ll admit it’s not my most solid argument. That’s the fact that both parties have said it’s not about the state aid case. I’m just...

I think it’s fairly obvious the council aren’t the NDA third party. The more interesting route is to ask why can’t details of the indemnity be released as it will only concern Sisu and Wasps and Wasps can’t hide behind the caterer or whatever. Surely if both agree to release just that it falls...

Has anyone got a graph showing mortality rate anywhere? I’m assuming we’ve spent four months or more with medicines top minds working on making this more treatable, are we seeing that in the data? Seems that (or a milder strain of the virus emerging) are our best bets for some level of...

In the words of my property developer boss “capital is easy to come by, if you can prove the returns”

Possibly. There are other remedies other than financial and I've explained that I can’t see the legal system taking kindly to an indemnity that means you can’t remedy the state aid. So would probably look for another remedy. Again, no one has ever said the indemnity is against the state aid...