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You've no idea what Corbyns level of competence in government would be. If we've got to the stage where Raab or Davis are acceptable under any circumstance then we are screwed.

it would help when you're the incumbent Brexit Secretary.

those calls are fine if they give some salient reason for changing their mind, breaking down crying is just emotive nonsense and probably a set up.

I can't say for sure, but I'd wager a fair bit of cash that Corbyn knows that Dover to Calais in an important trading route between the UK and the EU, just a hunch.

when those are the candidates for leader of one of the two main parties in the UK we are absolutely fucked. I'm fucking flabbergasted that Raab, who has shown he has absolutely no grasp of the issues surrounding Brexit being touted as a leader beggars belief. I never thought I'd hear myself...

Business also back it because we're 5 months away from being the only country in the world without a trade deal and operating exclusively under WTO rules. It will be a disaster but it's just something we're all going to have to live with.

fairly sure they had a constitutional claim to the north which they relinquished as part of the GFA.

yeah, I think that's exactly what they'll do. Probably talking to potential Tory leadership candidates as we speak.

DUP MP insists party is not bluffing over threat to vote against Budget over Brexit Jim Shannon quoted as saying the DUP wouldn't be scared of a general election. It may not be an ideal scenario but given the choice between a GE or a border in the Irish sea the DUP will go with the former...

Even the CET and Giblet aren't trying to put a positive spin on these accounts. Things must be bad.

hahaha!!

no chance the others won't vote the same. She's relying on Labour now if she get's through the day. Robert Peston saying he has been told there will be 48 letters in to the 1922 committee this afternoon. She's had it.

Jim Shannon of the DUP has just said he will vote against the deal, I would imagine the other 9 will vote the same.

Jesus wept, the Brexit secretary who thought post Brexit we would be able to individual trade deals with the remaining 27 EU countries, we're fucked.

we might never have been where we are if he'd managed to win that concession, On the brink of economic disaster, (no deal), or civil war (no Breixt). What a fucking shambles.

I get your point, but I think a border in the Irish sea is more unpalatable to them.

I read this morning he has designs on becoming PM. The Brexit secretary who last week said he didn't realise how busy the Dover- Calais trading route was, you couldn't make it up.

convoluted? That conversation with Astute lasted about 2 posts each.

I think you're right the EU would go for it but I don't see it getting that far.

Wonder if they'll get enough letters for a leadership challenge?