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No according to David that’s a bollocks line. He can’t tell you why though. Probably something in his waters.

This is an argument I don’t buy. It assumes a total failure of capitalism. Most UBI systems I’ve seen proposed leave most people back where they are rather than adding extra on top. It’s only those with nothing who get more (aside from extra taxes or whatever). I don’t think providing food...

Unless you’re going to post pics or are into cuckolding I’m not sure how this helps me.

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The only way I’d spend on a keeper is if it was a promising youngster we can develop to challenge/replace Marosi. Would have to be much better than the kids we’ve got though.

Again. It’s not a funny way of going about it, it’s standard practice. See my post earlier. It doesn’t imply guilt, I posted several examples of calls to talk to specific witnesses.

I very much approve of the direction this thread has taken

Seems like he just got out of prison. History of serious mental health issues (no shit). https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/12614083/birmingham-stabbings-suspect-freed-jail/

I thought this entire thread was about the Police wanting to talk to people and people saying they shouldn’t because the police hate football supporters. That’s all I’m saying. These people should help the police. If when they do they are unfairly charged then I’ll be right there with you...

Oh yeah I’m doing the classic lefty thing of “all this needs is an entire reorganisation of how we run society” 😂 In my ideal world I’d have UBI and remove most minimum wage and a lot of labour laws. I can see how business needs to be able to move quickly to respond (it’s what it’s there for)...

I don’t get this argument. Should football supporters never talk to police? Women, minorities and teenagers all have similar problems, just straight middle aged white men should help the police now? Disengagement isn’t the answer, engagement along with strong action if/when things happen is the...

I know all the arguments against it and agree with some but can’t help but feel UBI is the answer here. Enable companies to hire and fire and be more nimble without creating mass destitution and sucking all demand out of the economy. Business needs stability and we are a million miles from...

Agreed. Especially when you look at studies on the efficacy of government retraining programs (they don’t work).

Fair points. I guess I don’t really know what the makeup of the furloughed jobs is right now. Seems like there should be a mid point between let em rot and keep paying forever though.

Why not offer a job seeker bonus? If you move from a furloughed role to a non then you get £1k or something? Would probably work out cheaper overall and give people and incentive to look before the shit hits the fan.

Smoking is a personal choice and even by your figures is an order of magnitude less dangerous. And we seriously restrict it and spend millions trying to prevent its spread.

Maybe we can rent every other seat?

Yeah so not deadly it’s killed almost a million people. And as you say is only 1/200th of its way through the population. What’s 200m people dead between friends?

Not to mention policing it at a far higher level than normal during the game. Well clearly the interview with Hat Mancock I just listened to wasn’t as clear as he claimed. I came away thinking it was all sports events.