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Kinnock couldn’t quite shake off the hard left image When you look back he did save the party from oblivion along with Hattersley - A Benn Heffer follow on from Foot would have killed it for good - as would PR ironically

Blair was a member of a Marxist group anti Eu and CND - he saw the light! I was always a bit puzzled why Kinnock failed against major - his keynote speech in Sheffield backfired - ive met his son a couple of times and he’s a good guy as well

the fact is politics is a very silly game now. In the days of Kinnock vs thatcher or major there was a purpose. Now it’s just a game. Blair / Cameron / clegg are just politicians and could be in any party Let’s be honest. Gordon brown was the last leader of any party who actually had any...

lol you don’t want a debate you want a bunch of idiots echoing your prejudice

poor old PVA thinks I am being serious 😂 I may have voted Blair once I confess all and — i once voted for Nicolas Clegg I admit it — i repent every day of my life Johnson should be retained and when the time is correct shoe horn Mordant in - a brexit supporter with a social liberal ideology -...

The best comment when he was head of Cps was “a clean cut, lantern jawed fellow in the best Hollywood traditions” https://amp.theguardian.com/world/blog/2012/oct/17/gary-mckinnon-case-double-standards

He’s certainly going nowhere I agree with that

What isn’t acceptable?

No one does. Many tories are against Johnson as he’s a liberal spender and reckless Hed bung millions everywhere if it kept him going If beergate kills Starmer off and takes Red Ange with him labour could have Burgon in charge All far too soon. Wait a year get a bounce and bin him off then

About what?

Starmer would still be his best friend and share his views (once someone told him what those views were)

No there’s nothing remotely selective about you

He isn’t he has a good sense of humour

So what? Why would you want a weird freak from Serbia, a Swiss goody goody or a Snarling Spaniard to beat him?

Yet his labour buddies stood by him Have you recovered from that?

Didn’t you once remark Tony Blair was a criminal and should be dragged to The Hague for war crimes?

Well selective outrage never is

No hardly - I’m just ridiculing your faux anger and nonsense over a word - it’s boring and false

Thats what you are actually doing I mean seriously @mark82 is another thread necessary

Was there one any other time on here when it happened?