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  1. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In seat numbers, UKIP lost 24 seats which we'll take as all going to Brexit. So that's 5 'new' Brexit seats to get to their total of 29. Remain parties had increases of 19 seats (Lib Dem +15, Green +4) or 20 if you add in SNP. The established parties (who campaigned at the GE for leaving the...
  2. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well if you take the swing away from UKIP (-24.2%) as totally going to Brexit (who are essentially New UKIP) then that leaves 7.4% of Brexit's vote unaccounted for. Tories (probably the next most ardent leave party) had a swing of -14.8%. So that means only half of the lost Tory vote went to...
  3. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Trump is building an unsustainable boom designed to benefit the corporations and rich. It will implode and the average Joe will be absolutely fucked by it. I understand your stance on immigrants and old people paying in over the long term. I think those figures where immigrants pay in more than...
  4. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But why is the transfer of these millions of jobs the fault of the EU and immigration? They're moving for cheaper workers/production costs. By your own admission immigration brings down wages, so while taking some job you could argue they're helping keeping the manufacturing here by driving down...
  5. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I'm not convinced. I think the fact that they've been around for such a short time helped them last night - it didn't give enough time or get enough press coverage for the lunatics and racists to be revealed. A GE would do that. Plus Leavers want the right to make our own laws - why vote for a...
  6. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As I see it, the results show: - UKIP vote all went to Brexit - Leavers for Tory went Brexit - Remainers for Labour went Lib Dem or Green - I wouldn't read too much into this for a GE. It was a free hit protest vote because these MEP's are probably only going to be there a few months. - Farage...
  7. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As I said above, Parliament will block that. Second, specific, referendum saying "no Deal" or "Remain" is only solution. I have no idea who'd win that and I think it'd be very close again. But part of me wants that to happen so leavers will be made starkly aware of the realities of what they...
  8. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Never going to happen. Too many hard Brexiteers like JRM will only accept no deal. Remainers and soft Brexiteers never going to go for no deal vote in parliament. So Parliament will never reach a consensus. A new PM could try to just push through a deal without parliament, but parliament will...
  9. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or is it that the leavers rallied around one particular party, Brexit, whereas the Remain vote got split between Lib Dem and Green predominantly? The Leave/Remain thing is as divided as it ever was and pretty much split down the middle.
  10. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    Fair enough.
  11. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    I mean that they're normal in terms of it being relatively common as an extreme reaction. If it wasn't 'common' it couldn't be diagnosed as there wouldn't be enough cases to categorise it as such. Depression and anxiety are very common within my family and I've been very lucky in not having them...
  12. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    But things like panic attacks, depression, anxiety etc are all normal insomuch as that they're common responses to certain situations/circumstances. They're also mental illnesses. I agree to some extent about undergoing the physical changes because it's not truly changing their gender and help...
  13. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    I'm very sorry that you have panic attacks, but your opinion on this issue is very regressive. Are you suggesting you'd like your illness classified as 'normal'. And thus not get the help you need and deserve to cope with it? Personally I believe that mental illness is actually the norm and far...
  14. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    Why shouldn't they be open to such discussions? I agree that it shouldn't be 'forced' upon them, but if they ask the question should you ignore it? Is that for their benefit, or yours because you feel awkward? Obviously the answer will have to be sugar-coated to a large degree as it's far too...
  15. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    A lot of people may agree. It doesn't mean a lot of people are right. I think it kind of depends at what age you consider them learning it. Turning up in reception and being told it - no. By juniors - yes I think they'd definitely be able to cope with it. Very young kids are prone to ask awkward...
  16. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Chaplin to Salford?

    Personally I don't think Chaplin will prove to be good enough. I don't see that strikers instinct in him and his composure in front of goal and in one-on-ones was lacking IMO. Whoever said he had good movement in the box he doesn't spend enough time in the box to show it, always dropping deep...
  17. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Fa cup final

    Yeah, it has now become more like Football Manager where you've got the game editor and given yourself huge amounts of cash, looked up all the player stats in the editor and then signed in as manager of a second team to buy all your crap players on massively over-inflated prices. I've said...
  18. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    One law for us and.........

    But isn't that how we end up with entrenched views on religion, homophobia, racism etc? The historic prejudices will remain as no-one outside of that family/social circle can put forward the counter argument. Still get it with class differences - middle/upper class people look down on the...
  19. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Maybot has crashed

    One thing I've never got is why May leaves the dinner's at a certain point. As we're still members of the EU until such point as we actually leave I would refuse to leave the room. Maggie, love her or hate her (mainly the latter), she wouldn't be pushed around like that. I remember the stories...
  20. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Maybot has crashed

    He did. Then Gove (his major backer) stabbed him in the back saying he didn't believe he could do it and ran himself (only to pull out days later). This made Boris look silly and he withdrew. Boris wasn't really a Leaver (beforehand he quite often, in muted terms, was in favour of the EU) - he...
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