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Think that would be a bit harsh for our second season. If we finish between 14-17th it would still be a good achievement. I would be happy with that, provided we have strengthened the overall squad during that period. Incremental steps for me.

All players can improve their fitness, so that bit - yes. The obvious other flaw is the ;ratting' side of his game. Paul Scholes was notoriously poor at tackling, but still made them. For me Shippers needs to be first to the ball more often, or at least making contact with the opponent more...

Ground capacity 15k. Be very surprised if they stay up next season. Of those coming up, Hull should have the best chance of any promoted side (slight chance the Mackems might if they can get through the play offs, due to new owner's ££££s, although they'll need to buy a whole new team)

One of my favourite posts on any football website was on Owls talk today; a Sheffield Wednesday fan, after they had failed to beat Forest with an insipid performance, followed by Derby then losing and giving Wednesday a reprieve.......'We are like a turd that won't flush'

Not correct - Rob is just a City fan, and gives me a lift to games on a regular basis. Clearly Shippers hasn't had a good season and has flaws in his game which need to improve, We can't affect what will happen next season re: recruitment but I'm another who doesn't like to have a continuous pop...

Lee Burge ?

That is beyond a joke - the referee has to be asked to account for that decision

Yes - followed by Cardiff away. Can't see them getting 4 points from those (which is what they'd probably need - although it may only be 3 if Sheff Wed beat Derby. If Rotherham win midweek at Luton, it would effectively relegate Wednesday (because of goal difference). What a complicated end to...

Agree with all of that. Gyo looks strong, has a trick, battles well and is young enough to improve. I'd be really happy if we signed him.

How excitable does that Corberan get on the side. Can't be good for his blood pressure.

Sorry - never want us to concede, but that has got to help make up MR's mind on the GK position.

Was handball - hence Keogh getting arsey about it!

Liking Gyo, but Huddersfield's passing is better than ours at the moment. A bit more care needed. Haha Keogh air swing!

That was an awful display by Wednesday. You'd never have known anything was riding on the game. Still hope Derby lose today to keep it interesting (and or Rotherham win).

Totally agree - but their defenders (in general) are not up to passing football. Further forward, they are a bit better at it (although i see Campbell up front is out injured). It will be interesting to se what team MR puts out (nice to see us play without pressure, and have a real go). Would...

Huddersfield play out from the back. This needs to be a repeat of the Brentford game where we press them. Sarr, in particular, gives the ball away a lot, and Keogh has a lack of pace. Get O'Hare to chase them down!

You had that dream about being locked in a sauna again, Robbie ?

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/is-there-a-footballing-god-lee-burge-transfer-rumour.1549176/unread

I'm guessing that's word play, Clint - nice effort (had to look twice, due to the absence of the question mark! ;)

Sorry to hear about that G; behave yourself, and I'm sure you'll be welcomed back soon ;)