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  1. chiefdave

    Those hoping for WASPs demise

    Andy Gibb came in when Wasps took over ACL as the new MD. It was stated to be the first step of a management shake up.
  2. chiefdave

    Those hoping for WASPs demise

    Probably but you'd expect Marriott to buy directly from DeVere if there was to be a change. Doubt it will be much more than a rebrand so in reality not much will be changing.
  3. chiefdave

    Those hoping for WASPs demise

    This is absolutely nothing to do with Wasps, what a load of spin! Given the lead times involved it would appear this a result of ACL bucking their ideas up after we buggered off to Sixfields. Of course since then the person responsible for this upturn has been replaced with a former Wasps...
  4. chiefdave

    How much have we actually improved under TM?

    There's been an improvement for sure. What I've liked is the way he's spoken about the team, he's quickly picked up on things and is happy to let it be known when things aren't good. Of course talking a good game and putting things into practice are two different things. Lets see what happens...
  5. chiefdave

    About to be banned from Saturdays math

    By 5pm on Saturday there might be a lot more people wishing they'd been banned!
  6. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    People do seem to be very trusting of Wasps and think whatever we ask for we will get. Not sure the evidence so far supports that. Since they've been here we've been moved to a smaller changing room, lost use of the warm up area, not been given anywhere to sell merchandise (which the club claim...
  7. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Well that doesn't really answer the question does it. How is renting at £1m a year with zero revenue access (Grendel's example) better than building a new stadium? I'm not understanding why people are eager to dismiss the idea of a new stadium out of hand when even the independent experts the...
  8. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    How? With Grendel's example it would be £1m a year for the next 250 years so £250m, for which we would get no revenue access. In what way is that better than building a new stadium where we get access to all revenues? It's all hypothetical of course but just shows again that all scenarios need...
  9. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    I wasn't seriously suggesting we mount a campaign, more illustrating the fact that if our presence, at a rent of £100K, was essential to their plans it wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge.
  10. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    There's not really a response that can be made to that as what you are saying is you would prefer to pay more for less!
  11. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    You don't know that, it's impossible for anyone to know that. In your suggestion we would pay £12m for a 50% stake in a company with a debt of £14m that, from their last account, is struggling to make a profit. What you don't know is the cost of a new stadium and how the prop co would be set...
  12. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    That's not having it both ways, that's you taking one point (Wasps won't sell) and then making an assumption that they need us to stay. Wasps have already stated their business plan does not require CCFC to stay at the Ricoh. While I'm sure they would like us to stay is £100K a season plus F&B...
  13. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    As an absolute minimum you'd be looking at £6m (the price Wasps paid) to take a 50% stake in a company with a £14m debt. However it is highly unlikely they would sell at that price and would undoubtedly want a decent profit. At what point does that become an unviable option against a new...
  14. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    If they wanted shared ownership wouldn't they have just let our bid for Higgs share go unchallenged instead of making a bid for it themselves? As they purchased that share you would have to assume that in the unlikely event they would sell it to us they would want more than they paid so we'd be...
  15. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Unless they seriously think Fisher is going to build the new stadium and it will be in a location and with facilities to rival the Ricoh there is absolutely no incentive for them to give us increased access to revenues.I f anything they have the opportunity to charge us more for less. If they...
  16. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    This has become one of those things that is now stated repeatedly as fact on here but where has it been confirmed? Is it really 50% of all revenues, I thought all the revenue went to IEC not ACL. Or is it 50% of profit. If it's 50% of profit is it 50% of the profit from IEC or 50% of the % ACL...
  17. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    We are desperate. And now owning the Ricoh is off the table a new stadium saving our future is pretty much the only tiny bit of hope we have left. If staying at the Ricoh is our best option then the best we can hope for is being a team equitable to the likes of Yeovil, for whom success is an...
  18. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    well that's the million dollar question and if I knew the answers to those sort of questions I'd be doing it myself and have enough money spare to buy the club and build the ground. By no stretch of the imagination would it be easy, and given SISU's track record they are the last people you...
  19. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Lets face it Ranson managed to persuade SISU we were worth investing in! There would most likely be no mention of SISU or much of a mention of CCFC in any prospectus to raise funds, it would be all about an event facility and whatever else was incorporated into the site. Make it look attractive...
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