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Of course influences come in which is why you can’t make parties stick to a manifesto when they change leaders and that leader you don’t like everyone on here have got want they wanted - Johnson gone - enjoy the next two years

Did the unelected Mr Brown have a mandate for that action? Was it in the manifesto?

out of interest and I can’t be bothered to check was the increase to 45p in the pound introduced when Brown was PM? Was that in the manifesto or a change in direction?

If we had PR a few years ago there would have been a real chance Farage would have been PM

I’m hardly desperate it’s you whose desperate as you are proposing something that’s never ever going to happen

I don’t agree. The public mood at the time was totally opposed to the government. Even the unions opposed them and the pay restraint proposals. The libs pulled out of the pact and parliament pulled the trigger on a government that refused to die the only difference is this government has a huge...

Not really. A Lib lab pact which no one voted for, an attempt by labour to put a pay restraint of 5% against a 17% inflation rate (no manifesto for that which I think it continued to impose on public sector workers until the bitter end) and a government that carried on against the publics wishes...

Seriously? 1977 isn’t that long ago

Correct - turkeys Christmas and all that What the two main parties should do is have a better system to elect a leader that has the support of the MPs not the membership

Well the only way it’s going to change is if a party puts it in a manifesto and it goes through parliament - can’t see any doing it I think you’ll find that if it happens there won’t be too many no confidence votes anymore. It would also seem a bit unfair say if Mr Starmer was elected then...

Brown succeeded Blair was what I’m meant - a change of leader in office - this isn’t a presidential system - and it’s happened numerous times in history

Well if that happened I doubt they’d have ended Johnson’s tenure. Cameron is the only PM since Thatcher who hasn’t been elected this way hasn’t he?

Suggestions Cooper to be axed before the weekend so I suspect he’d be the obvious choice

Im sure they can manage that

Its a lesser survey though - also to be honest I think the Scottish system generally is a bit of a nightmare if you are the buyer - perhaps that’s how it should be but it’s more difficult from what I see

Are you buying his house?

Yes literally- he’s probably one of the most generous owners there is

I think the seller in Scotland has to get a Home Report not the same

Time and delay

he's spent around £230m over the years - they have a loan outstanding to him of £120 million which he is showing zero intent to call in - he has pocketed nothing - the losses the prior year were £30 million