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Will be following Shrewsbury's results closely next season - wish our old boys all the best.

Two things. How do you define a 'better' team ? When Hamer goes, it will be 'undisclosed' ? Bit difficult to establish the parameters for your charity bet. If you asked almost any City fan if they would be happy with a straight swap Hamer for Downes, I suspect you'll find your opinion is in...

Ollie McBurnie went to Sheff Utd for £20m, Gyo came to us for £1.5m. Doesn't prove anything re: ability.

So you will (ought to have) watched Hamer quite a lot? How many times have you seen Flynn Downes play ?

OK - which team do you support?

Does Mon Soleil translate into Welsh as Flynn Downes agent ?

Yeah - should be nailed on for top 2 this season, but then you have to add in the 'Bruce' factor :oops:

Agree - a few at Sunderland are touting him.

@rob9872 Yer kucknig fut xx

Dave Bowman - end thread (even if it was probably the wrong division)

Was thinking similar - income from shirts etc will be down too. Edit: just wondered if a few Cardiff shirts will have had BALE altered to WALES on the back !!

Be nice to get Shrewsbury in a cup game this season.

See Tom Bayliss is having his contract paid up at PNE, and could be off to................Shrewsbury!

Great if it's sorted early. Will help in the flexibility afforded to MR. Let's hope the ins and outs pick up apace, so we can get the established squad in situ asap.

It'd cost you £1m in petrol !!!!!

Keinan Davies is probably worth that imo. Archer no more, but probably a little less. I think Vik is of similar value to the former.

Not sure why Cameron Archer warrants £20m-25m in your mind, yet Vik should be less than half that?

I know money talks, but still think we are a way more attractive proposition to a player than Wigan, Blues, Blackburn or Rotherham (you can probably add a few more to that list). That will also be the case if a club is loaning a player out, with the style of play we have.

Actually feel sorry for the Derby fans (tw*ts who acted billy big bollocks at the CBS excepted) Expecting Mike Ashley to try and pay a fiver for them - always seems to make a profit out of anything.

Not sure about this. Means Southgate will continue to pick him, regardless of form. Nothing personal, but I'm not convinced he's as good as Rice, and don't think we need both Rice and Phillips in the England team together (as we'll no doubt discover in Qatar) but Southgate will die on that hill.