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  1. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Working people are still working people with working people concerns like health, education, wages, conditions, their immediate environment. Just because a workforce has successfully been atomised doesn’t mean it’s no longer got anything in common.
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    Transfer Rumour Callum Lang

    Also paid money for Hilßner but who knows how much.
  3. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Ive basically written off my kids childhoods which depresses me, but I went through school under the Tories, as long as they come out of Uni in a Labour boom like I did :D Honestly at the point where I’m hoping Johnson keeps the leadership and maybe his missus convinces him to not totally fuck...
  4. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    So you’ve proved that there’s an entrenched class system perpetuated by wealth through private education and your answer is to vote Tory? :P
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    Transfer Rumour Callum Lang

    Would currently put you 6th in the top scorers list and comfortably in the top ten.
  6. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    If I knew that mate. It honestly feels like when we went down to L2 and all thought we’d keep dropping, you just gotta hope Mark Robins shows up.
  7. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    I thought most people were in general agreement with your view, just confused about why the Tories are better.
  8. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    You’re choosing those. But it’s stuff like this Transgender model who said 'all white people are racist' appointed as Labour adviser and the Diane Abbott white people tweet and the Gordon Brown “bigoted woman” and Naz Shah not fucking reading fake Owen Jones accounts tweets before she retweets...
  9. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Grendel coming out for diversity quotas now.
  10. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    They were Tories ;) In all seriousness you’ve just shown the problem exactly with ID politics. Their characteristics don’t matter, the impact of their policies and the people who’s interests they work for do. Are you seriously telling me their cabinets were full of the working class? That their...
  11. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Am I close?
  12. shmmeee

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Someone once said to me “it’s better to be kind than right” and I think that sums up a lot of the lefts communication issue.
  13. shmmeee

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    You can’t deny that a large amount of left wing activists give off the impression of hating anyone who isn’t university educated middle class or non-white/straight. And a fair few MPs and public figures make their name playing to those same people. There’s a duplicity about it too, as you claim...
  14. shmmeee

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    I’m not sure what that’s got to do with the question of whether austerity killed people. That mortality stat is the best evidence I’ve seen for it. I don’t disagree with anything you say, if you’ve somehow got the impression that I love IDPol and modern overly online left wing activism you’ve...
  15. shmmeee

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    Not saying you’re wrong, but what else would’ve caused this? UK death rates have stayed the same since 2011 - Full Fact
  16. shmmeee

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    But Labour aren’t doing that, people on the left are. Or at worst, some weird backbench MPs are. Starmer isn’t out there saying people are privileged. I’ve just googled a bunch of phrases and can’t find any reference to it from him, the party, or the shadow equalities minister. Even in the...
  17. shmmeee

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    You say that, but that’s literally what the Tories entire shtick is “look at that gay/brown/single parent/immigrant/unemployed person of the same class as you”, I get it’s not like that on a guttural level, but I mean big picture that’s the entire game: the wealthy vs the rest. But what could...
  18. shmmeee

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    Agree with a lot of that, disagree the answer is submit to permanent one party rule. Like it or not, you’re Labour or you’re Tory. If you’re politics is at all left you gotta support the Labour Party. I naively hope if everyone did that they’d drown out the eejits. Can I ask, as someone clearly...
  19. shmmeee

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    Is that what Starmer is offering? And define “the politics of 1997”. The fundamentals of the British electorate haven’t changed that much. Tough on crime and defence, patriotic, funds public services, rest is a bit fuzzy. No one voted for Blair because he offered academy schools or PFI...
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