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Dr Ron Daniels icu consultant from good hope hospital and covid-19 lead was just on the bbc and said West Midlands hospitals are ok at the moment

Way to miss the point again. The point is this, if it was a purely safety reasoning for closure they could just shutter the non drive through stores and transfer some staff to the,m as needed by demand.mas the arevshutting everything it is purely economic

I was talking about people such as the poster claiming we had already reached this stage.

Same with McDonald's, take out food is allowed and is probably a vital thing so they could easily and safely run their drive through. They probably decided it made more sense for them not to. Any who what is happening to the staff as they will mostly be on zero hour contracts

The rumours that appear on Facebook etc. It's serious and it can get and will get worse but when 12% of icu beds are used by Covid-19 patients people running around saying the hospitals are overcrowded already and can't fit anymore icu patients is morally wrong. Also the poster claimed the 18...

Wake up? I was awake when when I studied economics. Where did you do yours? You need to keep demand in the economy as while there while be a recession you are trying to stop a depression. If everyone stops spending money they don't need to you get the paradox of thrift where demand reduces and...

Exactly, the government advice was correct but people ignored it so we are on our last warning. From the press briefing yesterday it looks more lime police powers to enforce social distancing rather than a full lockdown.

"Working" from home

I know image think the leader of the government not being ultimately responsible for his government's actions.

The private sector are making bad decisions based on shortsighted ideas. If you don't keep the economy running you will not have the demand left to start it up again. What actually needs to happen is police powers to enforce social distancing not a hibernation of the economy.

John Lewis have pushed some staff to waitrose stores We don't want all shops to close and the economy to stop. That would lead to a depression.

Nick he's a senior politician I the party that has been in power for a decade. Their policies led to the nhs being under strength in their ability to deal with a pandemic. To point that out is not point scoring but a simple truth.

Talking of money, the fastest and best way to stop the stone age twat spouting this nonsense us to say "ok Richard, but you now need to return the money you've earned for the cancelled season"

Get a grip

While tragic the 18 year old had massive chronic underlying health problems. UHC has capacity at the moment. Can we keep things truthful as bullshit rumours don't help anyone.

Yeah that's what people are missing, Italy rose in pretty much normal pandemic levels and then suddenly exploded. Dr Jenny Harries the DCMO said only 12 percent of icu beds are currently in use by covid-19 patients so I'm hopeful we can avoid that as long as we don't have a repeat of this...

An epidemiologist said what they are looking for is to be see the doubling of deaths to take 3 days which will mean the urvebis starting to bend.

Yeah, it will kill young people just not at the same rate

That was Jenny Harries today when someone asked about one of the unnamed hospital is full rumours.

They have never said it only effects the elderly. Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance said this at a recent press conference (it could have been the academy of medical science one). They said it can but young healthy people in critical care but the mortality rate for the elderly is far higher...