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It also puts a bit of a hole in the why don't they stay in the first safe country argument

Well the George Floyd murder was in the States. But it resonated with.people and especially a lot of black.people.

loads of people. Maybe not so much in this country but in the States. It's been around since Trayvon Martin was killed and George Zimmerman got off with it

They've been saying it for years. The George Floyd death just resonated round the world. Sometimes one event stands out more than.others and captures the attention of the public.

45 in the 'preliminary toll' according to the Mail. 845 new cases. Is the preliminary toll new terminology?

I'm not sure how you can avoid it in the case of the corona virus thread to be honest.

I wouldn't be surprised if her going off grid was about ensuring her own safety though I wouldn't like to be in her shoes. It's not just Andrew either. Trump, Clinton , Mandelson, Dershowitz. A whole host of powerful people

No. You're framing politics as the Westminister bubble and the two main parties. Politics encapsulates far more than that and operates on many more levels.

Won that and in with a shout of the Charles Darwin award. Kids a winner

Can I make a late entry with Ghislaine Maxwell?

saw them earlier in the year and they were decent. Playing Ally Pally which is a good night out but it's a Thursday. Was thinking maybe Bristol, it's a Saturday and I've not been for a night out there before.

tour tickets for next year go on sale tomorrow. Bit reluctant to bother because I can still see there being issues related to covid.

I've since seen it on Sky. Probably a better alternative for a lot of people given it location though the same article said China was going to refuse to let people leave.

as one of the alternative countries?

I wouldn't have thought so either.

Really? I haven't mentioned the tories too much in the George Floyd debate, I've mentioned them a lot in the corona one. How can you have a discussion on it without mentioning them? I also will never agree with Nicks attempts to remove politics from the debates, they're all about politics, I've...

I'm not reading this lot again!!

who has said you're racist? Someone on here?

sorry, wrong terminology, posted a tweet from Andy Ngo, post 3129. Right wing grifter who's not shy at asking for cash, (or getting one of his lackeys to do it).

what are you on about now for fucks sake? I have been arguing with Nick all morning, it's not just me disagreeing with him, he's also disagreeing with me, that's debate. I doubt he's getting stressed about it, I'm certainly not.