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  1. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    it was sold for £5.6m not £19m
  2. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    The price wasps paid was £5.6 million - you just don’t understand for some reason that rather basic fact. Not £19 million but £5.6 million. It’s a fact. Richardson used the leverage of the grounds valuation to borrow against it to get his money back. Another fact
  3. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Because dodgy Derek wanted his money back and saw this a way to get £10 million in one day
  4. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Eh? If Sisu had purchased the Higgs share as per the formula price they would have paid was it £11 million (?) for the share and the club still would have been paying the same rent it had before Unencumbered was a word Lucas managed to pronounce and that was it.
  5. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    The shareholder value was £5.6m - it rose to £64m when the lease was purchased - what does that tell you?
  6. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Waaps paid £5.6m for the purchase of the shares - they then paid an extra £1m for the purchase of the lease extension. The lease extension raised the valuation of the Arena from £5.6m to I think £64m (?) A valuation that took into account all outgoings did it not?
  7. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    it wasn’t as there couldn’t be a legal requirement to do that
  8. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    The loan was a cost of purchase that was reflected in the shareholder value the same as any other payments - there was zero requirement to purchase the loan and the owners of wasps holdings could have paid the mortgage to the council - mutton at the time said the interest on the mortgage would...
  9. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    No they decided on a different funding source to finance a charge against a business they’d purchased - they wouldn’t have even had an option to refinance without the lease extension and they had no obligation to do so
  10. Grendel

    Nottingham Serious Incident

    The guy who committed the crime studied at the university and was here from a child - his migrant status isn’t relevant
  11. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    ACl was in no debt - there was a £14m charge against it to the council - the shareholder purchase reflected that there was zero obligation for the purchaser of the shares to then buy out the mortgage. Sorry but you are talking nonsense
  12. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    There was no debt
  13. Grendel

    cricket 2023

    not really - I heard her summary at the end and it was spot on
  14. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Er they did?
  15. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    it isn’t - the shareholder value was £5.6 and the loan transfer was after purchase. The lease extension allowed a valuation of £60m - the borrowing needed wasn’t £35m it was £14m - the loan wasn’t related to the debt
  16. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    No it had to be done or we wouldn’t have a club
  17. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Its not cool it’s a fact - I can see why the council gave it that lease as it made it unsalable. If you define success as still existing as a club then yea it was as it got rid of the morons at the council and forced them to offer a commercial leased a buyer could fund against
  18. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    Im saying the original lease was a dumb lease that would have bankrupted ACl and also the football club. Setting a 50 year lease was the most stupid idea imaginable
  19. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    the initial lease wasn’t tangible for anyone The actual cost was £1.5m with no access other than matchdays no revenues from match related activity The other problem was ACl was made up from a woefully inadequate council and an egotistical fool - they also only had a lease that from day one...
  20. Grendel

    The Ground Deal

    It will be more than what we were paying wasps
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